https://sci-hub.tw/10.1016/j.rser.2017.01.115
Hi everyone! I came late.. Did you talk about baterio-algae fuel cells!? I was just researching about these for CO2 sequestration and power generation! This paper was pretty cool (it's on scihub)*bacterio
ooh that sounds interesting re. radiation resistant microbes
Fuel cells are cool. I did some experimenting with them but gave up when a chance to do mammalian genetics came up. Still have all the materials so maybe I'll come back to it.
I've been trying o isolate R. palustris which is one of the best microbes for fuel cells but it's proven challenging. Buggers just wont seem to grow. Trying to just get a pure culture from someone in the meean time
Also they're the most versatile organism ever described. They eat the most toxic garbage we 've made as a species, excrete electrons, and are photosynthetic. Also they fix nitrogen. And are rich in vitamins so feeding them to fish or other wildlife is good for them. And innoculating soil with them makes plants grow better
I thought so! Hopefully I will have a go at making one! Phew I just looked up buying R. palustris culture - it is like £360! Even the algae is expensive!
@Thomas Shaddack I'm curious about FEP and PTFE now, I do see one claim that there is a PTFE printer. I guess the parts should be printed/made within a flow hood. With appropriate filtering of the exhaust. Next time you hear about a mass bird death you should suspect a chemist venting a ton of fluorocarbons to the atmosphere (only source I have is a BBC documentary on Teflon manufacture pollution ).
look up EM-1 probiotic. It's a mixed culture that contains it. people have had success isolating it from that mix which is what Im tryng to do
@Andrew Smart i was thinking about fluoropolymer coating using a plasma reactor, with the gas feed being thermally depolymerized ptfe.
ah ok thanks! Will do!
is that the manufacturer of teflon that produces toxic stuff? i didn't know that
@Andrew Smart with vacuum pyrolysis you won't get as annoying products as in air.
@anfractuosity in european union and california pretty much everything is toxic. those places are dangerous to live in.
i'm genuinely confused, as teflon itself is very unreactive i thought
@anfractuosity even soldering alloys cause cancer in california. stay away from there!
@anfractuosity teflon is unreactive at sanely low temperatures. above 270c it starts decomposing.
its the binder that they use to stick teflon to stuff that's toxic. so in cheap products they haven't baked it off sufficently and when you first use the items you're expsoed. SO baking teflon coated items for a while in a well ventilated area can help drive that crap off, but not so hot that it decomposes
@anfractuosity (for here let's consider teflon===ptfe, sometimes you get other fluorocrap with the same trademark.)
@thethoughtemporium what would you suggest for converting lubricant-grade teflon powder to a coating-grade teflon suspension?
no idea. Haven't worked with teflon enough to say
@thethoughtemporium could your ultrasonic homogenizer work for deaggregation of nanoparticles?
"Fluoroantimonic acid thermally decomposes at higher temperatures, generating free hydrogen fluoride gas. It is exceptionally corrosive and can only be stored in containers lined with Teflon." that's pretty interesting
hexafluorophosphate/hexafluoroantimonate salts are interesting. organic ones (iodonium, sulfonium..) are used as photoacid generators as they release these.
probably
handy for photopolymerization of epoxides.
I used it to lyse ecoli for the first time 2 days ago. works like a charm
thought about magnetostriction design, a kilowatt-scale transducer, a knockoff of world-war 2 japanese sonar.
gets pretty damn warm though. Next time I'm keeping a bucket of ice water next to me so I can chill it between runs
what about fan blowing air over the thing?
not enough surface area for the amount of heat being generated to be removed effciently
machine ribs on it?
and I can''t care fins into it without screwing with the resonance
*carve
yes. mk.2 design then?
honestly at this point I'd buy one if I need a stronger one. It's too hard to find higher power transducers
that's why i was looking at the magnetostriction.
and then someone else has already done the math
a bunch of nickel tubes is easier to braze together than to hunt for a chunk of piezoceramics.
i'll be honest until this second i had no idea magnetostrictiv ultrasound was a thing
looking into it now
ww2 japan used nickel first, iron-aluminium alloy later when nickel became hard to find.
now we have more modern alloys, so either said nickel or galfenol. (there are better ones but galfenol looks doable with even a small furnace.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galfenol
Galfenol - Wikipedia
In materials science, galfenol is the general term for an alloy of iron and gallium. The name was first given to iron-gallium alloys by United States Navy researchers in 1998 when they discovered that adding gallium to iron could amplify iron's magnetostrictive effect up to tenfold.
so is it literally just a stack of nickle plates with a coil around it??
that's... like way too easy
in principle yes. there will be a whole small portable hell on wheels in the details, chock-full of devils, and each of the devils carrying a bandolier with cans of worms.
fair. I need to find a good resource for this.
I totally just realized that these are in everything. And how a lot of sensors are made. Can't believe I hadn't heard of this
happens!
they dont seem overly efficent. I wonder if you can just stack the piezos to increase power
https://oscillator2.wordpress.com/tag/ultrasonic-whistle/
Or you could just whistleintriguing
i saw a paper where they used ultrasonic cavitation in brewing, to pulverise the mash
that makes sense
My head hurts just thinking about the amount of ultrasonic energy you'd need to do that.
I've been wanting to try to do that with meat in sauce, or vodka in wood casks
not for beer though, right? you exactly don't want a pulverized mash
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.06629.pdf
that's the paper
it was for beer
odd, and funny title as the reason you dno't want to pulverize usually is because it causes the wort to be cloudy
oh it says hydrodynamic cavitation, just checking if it was ultrasound transducers
lol ok so a blender XD
sorry yeah, it seems to use the pump to do the cavitation, wasn't how i thought it worked
ah
I want to toss a lamb shoulder into an ultrasonic cleaner full of sauce
heh
you've heard of sous vide i assume
yeah
this would be more like marinading, I assume
marinating
but like, instantly
the ultrasound would cook it you mean eventually?
instead of over a day or several
no, no cooking - just all of the micro cavities filling up
ohh
interesting
is that a done thing?
never heard of it
vacuum impregnation.
I'd guess you could do the same thing with vodka and charred wood - basically making a whiskey-ish thing really quickly instead of aging for years
all of that is theory, but easily testable
I will do it, some day
i'm curious about artificial aging too, i think microoxygenation would be important for that too
@OnlyOneCannolo Here is a DIY rotovap: I expect there are many other instrumentation cost-lowering approaches with the presented Chemputer system (e.g. a means to control a dial of an off-the-shelf hotplate?). I hope this would lower the cost of entry for new generic drug manufacturers, allow countries with drug shortage problems to produce drugs, etc... Many possibilities.
I'm actually making a rotovap! Been meaning to turn the vacuum coupling on the lathe for the last week or so. Hoping to get around to it early next week.
It's pretty easy to make one if you've got a lathe. Depending on how it goes I'm contemplating selling the vacuum coupling as that's the hardest part
may make a small run of them
I'd wanted a metal lathe for years so when the lab finally got one I've been finding any excuse to use it. That's why I made the electroporator out of delrin instead of 3d printing it. Bought a rod of teflon for the couplings and gonna cut them to fit a 24/40 glass fitting
I love using the lathe at my hackspace
I wish I had more projects that needed it
sometimes I make pens
I'm finally going to get trained on ours at work, hopefully Friday
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