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@Dan Maloney, with regards the tester. I have no caught a single bad unit with it!
@Brian Lough I don't, because I do it for fun
and I have a very rich wife
BUT it gives me huge piece of mind. If I made 10000 good ones I still wouldnt stop using it
@deshipu Oh I know :-) But you need to look at what the market will bare/accept for your product too.
@Jakob Wulfkind we help troubleshoot payment issues with customers. Buyers can use credit/debit cards or Paypal. We help mediate if there are other customer service issues.
my reputation as a seller is very important to me and even one or two bad ones would not be worth the time it takes to test
@SeonR if the market won't buy it at that price, then it's probably not a good idea in the first place :)
Oh @Jasmine Brackett is here! w00t!
Hello!
Hi Jasmine!
If I costed in the time to make, pack and ship, then it would be too expensive. We all do it for the satisfaction of giving back to others who can make use of what you've made.
@Brian Lough Your YouTube presence. When did you start, how did you start, did you get help from anyone, and do you've any wisdom to pass on to someone like myself who has only their toe in the waters of hacker/maker space; and wanting to start producing content.
especially the ones that are sold via a reseller. If you sell 100 on tindie and two come back as bad, only those two people see that
@Digicool Things that only works until you get 80 orders in one week, though
@Digicool Things you might want to optimise your processes, still.
@deshipu Really depends on what it is, and why you made it... a lot of what I put on tindie is projects I was making for myself first... but that said, I don't always make great decisions ;)
but if you sell through a re-seller (shout out to TH3dstudio!) they see both becuase they had to deal with the customers
I second @Josh Lloyd question.
I made that mistake with #Rainbow Jellyfish
Does anyone know if it is possible to sell on Tindie as a company and not as an individual? And what about liability? I see a lot of circuit boards, and I imagine none of them go through any form of certification?
@Nicolas Schurando I can see a lot of companies selling there, so I would guess that yes
@SeonR people don't browse Tindie and compare to other places on price. They are looking for hardware shortcuts or items they can't find anywhere else. Many also want to support other hardware creators.
@Josh Lloyd I've been making videos for just over two years now. I started by picking a topic that I knew and recorded a video on it. My first one was about connecting to HTTPs endpoints directly on the ESP8266
@Nicolas Schurando I certainly see companies selling on their, but I guess that's a question for @Jasmine Brackett
*there.
I have recieved lots of help along the way. The main boost I got was from appearing on the EEVBlog guest videos Jan of last year
@Nicolas Schurando There is a lot of grey area with cert for hobby electronics and items that are used as part of something else... you need to do your own research on your products and see where they stand on cert requirements.
I went from 1k to 2k subs basically overnight, it took me a full year to get the first 1k
@Brian Lough @Josh Lloyd @SeonR Thanks.
@Brian Lough - is your software dev job related to ESP8266 stuff?
Make videos that you would like to watch yourself is about as good of a tip as I could give. Also dont spend a load of money getting stareted. I still use a Second hand snow ball mic and I use a webcamera for shooting videos
Not at all @Dan Maloney !
@Nicolas Schurando we have a lot of small businesses and companies from all over the world. We ask sellers to ensure that they are abiding by the rules where they reside and where they ship to. Many items are components or parts, but if you're selling a consumer item, then there may be additional certs you need.
Yes, I discovered Brian's channel via that EEVBlog guest video.
I work for an American financial services company, who's social media policy prevents me from saying their name!
For the last 7 years or so I have been a regular app developer, working in .net and c#
but last year I moved to their proof of concepts team, I'm currently working on a VR project in Unity using the HTC vive
it's a lot of fun!
Understood. You just mentioned your first videos and going with what you know, figured there may have been some crossover
Ah, C#/.NET, spent 2 years training on that stack and don't even use it professionally.
Actually how I came across the ESP8266 is kind of interesting
@Brian Lough do tell.
I was not involved with making at all at this stage, but I saw the pi zero and I thought that was really cool and wanted to pick one up
but they were sold out (this was 3 years ago)
@Jasmine Brackett Ok, thanks!
and I came across a reddit post of someone saying that they waited so long for a pi zero that they figured what they really wanted was an ESP8266
at this stage I had never used any arduinos before, but reading up on the ESP8266 I was blown away with what it claimed it could do
So I bought some stuff and started hacking away on it and I was hooked
Your reaction to the ESP8266 is how I felt when I discovered it. The price and its capability was unbelievable. Then I saw the ESP32 and I'm obsessed. I've found no competition to Espressif.
Yeah, it is a pretty amazing ecosystem. Bitluni has done some really cool video hacking with ESPs
One of the first things I tried to do with it is get the Telegram Bot API working on it, I was actually on work leave at the time (finding myself :) ) and was doing a lot of work with Telegram bots and I thought it would be perfect fit
For sure he is!
I tried out his ESP32 to VGA thing last week and it works great!
ESP32 to PS1 emulator anyone?
where did you find a vga monitor?
I'm at the stage now where ESP8266 is my default chip unless I have a reason to not use it (battery/size etc)
on my desk :)
I also found one in my shed, I'm a horder
Yeah, but is it a CRT?
I'm too weak for CRTs :)
No its not
The best CRTs are the ones you have to slap to get vertical drawing working
I still had a few of those until very recently
ESP MCUs are great but they are not low power devices...
@Josh Lloyd - "Percussive maintenance"
what was the little button that you could press on CRTs to make them kind of bounce?
Ah, CRT's. From the brave era where our source of entertainment was a particle accele
rator pointed at one's face
@Brian Lough degauss
@Kris Winer I get 4uA from the ESP32 in deepsleep. Is that not low power?
Sorry, I have to run, but if folk have any questions about selling on Tindie email met jasmine@tindie.com or join #Tindie Dog Park
Have a great day!
Thanks @Jasmine Brackett
Thanks Jasmine
@Kris Winer that they are not! my PCB3 used an attiny13 and lasted for a couple of days on a single coincell with the 12 charlieplexed LEDs
@Josh Lloyd it's not
@Josh Lloyd Non-state preserving, so limited in its application...
4kB of state stored in RTC Slow Mem
but then you have to read and write it, and that makes you stay longer in non-sleep states
I guess for my application where I want to wake up once an hour for the next 15 years, ESP32 works well.
@Josh Lloyd How do you do that with the Arduino IDE? Would be cool if possible...
also the non-sleep state is really energy hungry
If I missed any questions please feel free to post again, it was hectic at one stage and I'm a slow typer :P
@Kris Winer You should be able to use the RTC Data Attribute in Arduino
I asked if you have ever been tempted to try the ESP8285...
I have never used it @Kris Winer
@Josh Lloyd I'll need to take a look at htis, thanks!
@Kris Winer Try using `RTC_DATA_ATTR` before your variable next time. I've not tried it in Arduino but its an ESP-IDF attribute and should be defined in the Arduino environment.
I dont do a lot with ESP modules, I mainly use the wemos d1 mini
The variable will be linked in to low power meomry.
*memory.
Is the ESP8265 lower power than the 8266?
https://hackaday.io/project/162287-pcb3-christmas-tree-pcb
PCB3 - Christmas Tree PCB
Inspired by the awesome badges made by maker community, I thought it would be cool to make a PCB in the shape of a PCB. The tree has 12 LEDs that are intended be reverse mounted so that shine through the PCB to illuminate the other side.
*8285
There is the PCB3 for reference
@Brian Lough So is YouTube and Twitter your primary social interface?
Do you use anything else, frequently?
I used to live stream on Twitch twice a week
I usually target ~25 uA average power usage for most of my remotely-deployed, or wearable devices. It would be great if an ESP-based device could do this...
But yes, those are my two main ones
@Brian Lough - Meant to ask about the live streams. Planning on any more?
I'm trying to get into Instagram a bit more, but im an old fogey (sp?)
ESP8285 is basically the same as an ESP8266 but with embedded flash memory.
@Kris Winer The "average" depends on your wake duty cycle, right?
@Kris - Thanks, might order a dev board to play with
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