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Hack Chat Transcript, Part 2

A event log for LED Art Hack Chat

The engineering of art

dan-maloneyDan Maloney 07/01/2020 at 20:060 Comments
Aaron Oppenheimer12:52 PM

@AJ yeah, i guess you could say all of us have done that in the last couple years. You kind of have to be able to work with both types of people in this field. Its really just about keeping it simple and making sure everyone's on the same page. If there's enough money for everyone on the project that def helps. I'd say were relatively happy lol!

@Anonymous - we're in the middle of a Hack CHhat on LED Art. Perhaps someone can help you when we're done in about 10 minutes. Meanwhile, enjoy the chat!

James Murphy12:52 PM
Great being here I gotta Go. Thank you all So much!

Steve Pomeroy12:52 PM
@Jake Lampack Very true. I do like how it gives you immediate feedback, though. That's a lot harder with direct coding.

Anonymous12:53 PM
k, i mean ive been trying to hack the game for some time now and i almost have it but when i save the javascript code their servers "change" the values

Anonymous12:53 PM
would like some assistance whenever anyone can offer XD

Aaron Oppenheimer12:53 PM
@AJ if you're trying to do addressable LED stuff, and loop in other fun things, I'd probably start with a Raspberry Pi and the neopixel library

Aaron Oppenheimer12:53 PM

https://learn.adafruit.com/neopixels-on-raspberry-pi/python-usage

Adafruit Learning System

NeoPixels on Raspberry Pi

You'll need to install the Adafruit_Blinka library that provides the CircuitPython support in Python. This may also require verifying you are running Python 3. Since each platform is a little different, and Linux changes often, please visit the CircuitPython on Linux guide to get your computer ready!

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AJ12:54 PM
@Aaron Oppenheimer Thank you!!!

Aaron Oppenheimer12:54 PM
adafruit has some great tutorials on this stuff, i would just pick one you like and follow it to a T. then maybe do another 1 or 2, then try your own project

Steve Pomeroy12:54 PM
Oh, one questions about large-scale wiring for a custom installation project. Are there languages/formats/etc. for doing wiring diagrams that everyone would understand or is it just a wild west?

Soma Holiday12:54 PM
@AJ I can second Adafruit as an amazing resource for beginning with LEDs. I'm a software engineer who didn't know a single thing about electricity when I started, and Adafruit got me over the hump.

sander12:54 PM
One of my projects

AJ12:55 PM
@Aaron Oppenheimer @Soma Holiday Thanks! Yeah, I think my problem is that I thought I need ed my own projects from the get-go, and that just set me up for failure before I even began.

Steve Pomeroy12:55 PM
I'm thinking about all the low-voltage DC wiring, plus power injection wiring, plus power supplies, etc.

CopperJockey12:55 PM
Question about floura, any plans to add light bands that are beneficial to plant growth. Not something like a full on grow light but a light that stimulates growth of house plants?

AJ12:55 PM
I will definitely check those out!

sander12:55 PM
One of my projects, A light Conversation:

Soma Holiday12:55 PM
@AJ Adafruit has a lot of tutorials on specific project ideas that can be very inspiring and educational

AJ12:56 PM
@sander Neat-o!

Aaron Oppenheimer12:56 PM
@sander that looks awesome. love that the phone looks like its hovering. nice mobile app integration too!

Rafael Lawisch12:56 PM
When talking about addressing, is there a common spec/protocol? Is it a single network, or multiple networks are used? I can only imagine what would take to control instalations in the 100k+ LEDs, like the tree

sander12:56 PM
@AJ thanks :-)

AJ12:57 PM
@Soma Holiday Well, now I know what my weekend is gonna look like. Thanks!

Bailey Steinfadt12:57 PM
@CopperJockey Light frequencies good for growth of plants depends very much on the plant! And they're still researching it, too. Used to work in a research greenhouse doing automation. Pretty interesting stuff, but a deep well to dive into.

AJ12:57 PM
@sander How did you develop the phone app?

Aaron Oppenheimer12:58 PM
@CopperJockey we don't have explicit plans to do that yet, but will look into it! It will be easy to add updates and features software/content side, even after we start selling the product

sander12:58 PM
@Aaron Oppenheimer Thanks! Do you build kinetic art as well or leds an no moving parts?

Jake Lampack12:59 PM
@Rafael Lawisch With using a single ip network and something like ArtNet or OPC, addressing can be relatively manageable, but it's still a task.

sander12:59 PM
@AJ that's actually a webpage using websockets for realtime communication, oh and it doubles as a wireless doorbell (those old bells inside the phone sound great)

CopperJockey1:00 PM
Thanks all for your time. Really enjoyed the chat.

Robert Arkenklo1:00 PM
In general, do you have any advice on how to find customers for custom LED art before getting traction? Is focused marketing super important?

How would you do it?

AJ1:00 PM
@sander Thanks!

Aaron Oppenheimer1:00 PM
@Steve Pomeroy to answer your question about electronic documentation, we have a more experienced electrical engineer we work with on big projects. She uses EAGLE to do more involved documentation, but a lot of time just does it in google docs. If its clean and clearly labeled everyone can understand it

Anonymous1:00 PM
ive used EAGLE before

Well folks, it's coming up on the top of the hour, and we need to let Aaron, Cate, and Jake get back to building their business. I want to thanks them for dropping by the Hack Chat today, and everyone for some great questions and a lively discussion.

AJ1:01 PM
Thanks guys! Best of luck!

Steve Pomeroy1:01 PM
Gotcha. I use KiCAD/Eagle for boards, but not for large-scale electrical diagrams. Thanks!

Cate Hall1:01 PM
@sander Kinetic art is something we're definitely interested in, but the combination of LEDs and kinetics is quite complicated, both in terms of the electrical system and mapping the LEDs on a moving surface. Safe to say kinetics are something we intend to explore to a greater extent once we've conquered the basic challenges of creating an LED consumer product.

Aaron Oppenheimer1:01 PM
thanks everyone! please check out our product fluora, and sign up for the waiting list! follow us on instagram/facebook/anything else too!

Aaron Oppenheimer1:01 PM

http://ledhouseplant.com/

fluora

fluora

Fluora is an LED houseplant lamp. With fluora, light isn't just a utility. It's a scene-stealer, a destination, a magnum opus. With its realistic natural plant form and immersive, precision-tuned lighting system, fluora will bring your space to life in more ways than one.

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Cate Hall1:01 PM
Thanks for having us!

Aaron Oppenheimer1:01 PM

http://colorandlight.art/

Colorandlight

color+light - experiential art collective

The Oddwood Tree was conceived, designed, and delivered by the artists at Symmetry Labs and color+light for Area15, an experiential retail and entertainment complex opening in Las Vegas.

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Steve Pomeroy1:01 PM
Thanks so much for doing this chat. Best of luck with Fluora! It's gonna be awesome!

Aaron Oppenheimer1:01 PM

https://www.instagram.com/fluoraplant/

Instagram
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sander1:01 PM
Thanks for all the answers!

Aaron Oppenheimer1:02 PM

https://www.instagram.com/colorandlightart/

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Anonymous1:02 PM
awesome can someone gimmie some assisance plz, trying to perform a javascript hack

sander1:02 PM
The plant leaves are injection molds?

Aaron Oppenheimer1:02 PM
guys, if you have any follow up questions, feel free to reach out to me via email: aaron@colorandlight.art

Thanks everyone! Next week we're heading into the machine shop with Linux:


https://hackaday.io/event/173261-linux-in-the-machine-shop-hack-chat

Hackaday

Linux in the Machine Shop Hack Chat

Andy Pugh will host the Hack Chat on Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at noon Pacific Time. Time zones got you down? Here's a handy time converter! From the time that numeric control started making inroads into machine shops in the middle of the last century until relatively recently, the power of being able to control machine tools with something other than a skilled human hand was evident.

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Aaron Oppenheimer1:02 PM
and huge thanks for @Dan Maloney for putting this on! we had a blast!

You're welcome! This was great, thanks so much.

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