Dan Maloney@Kaushlesh Chandel - we are seeing a lot of projects that really get excitement from kids. High altitude balloons, ISS contacts, fox hunting, kit building, ... it just takes motivated mentors/elmers who will work with them and make it fun/interesting.
I've looked into the Bluetooth tnc ( couldn't buy any yet ) I am not suggesting one device or another... just thinking of how can it be easy and fun ( turn on, and it works ) for a Gen Z
AATiS is a great concept, should be copied all over the world. That’s a German non-profit organization bringing ham radio to the schools by offering teaching material and low-priced kits with a ham radio and STEM orientation
@Jan Weber -- Do you have contacts at AATiS?
LoRa APRS seems strong in EU but I have not seen much of it in the USA!
@John Hays : No. but have a look here: https://www.aatis.de/content/
@Jan Weber - Thanks
KE6WOB -- Sorry I'm late!
@fid There is this, which is essentially a portable radio's internals controlled by Arduino and serial port ATDT commands - https://www.hobbypcb.com/index.php/products/uhf-vhf-radio/rs-uv3a
@K2LCT - I actually worked a lot of LoRa APRS last year using an STA call I applied for. The ability is there, but the power limits are pretty restricting. You'll need high andtennas and a clear freq. bandwidth of at least 125 kHz to be effective.
BTW - this project has been very successful and the leader would be happy to share experiences https://www.ampr.org/grants/2021-grants/grant-m17-open-protocol/
No worries @Mark J Hughes. And welcome!
Sorry (wrong paste). This one https://www.ampr.org/grants/2021-grants/grant-engaging-and-educating-youth-in-amateur-radio-through-hands-on-space-science-activities/
And FYI all -- I'll post a transcript after the chat in case you want to refer back to any of these links
If anyone has any questions on M17 please head to our website m17project.org and link to our discord
Hi @John Hays :)
How do we get in touch with you outside of hackaday?
I have a project that I'd like to see accomplished -- but no time for it myself. Perhaps you know some people who can help?
@Steve Miller and I have a german ham that wants to build FIDOnet on top of LORAwan but needs developers (he is primarily a tech writer).
Thanks @Dan Maloney . A transcript would be great.
@Mark J Hughes contact@ardc.net, and our website is ampr.org
That uv3a board looks like a fun prototyping to build with GnuRadio.
Thanks!
:thumbsup:
I have a hard stop at the top of the hour. If there are any specifics for me. You can also reach out for grants at giving@ardc.net or me personally at john.hays@ardc.net
@John Hays LoRaWAN, or LoRa the modulation? I'm going to be honest here, I'm against using closed protocols (LoRa is owned by Semtech, and was only exposed through reverse engineering) - but something like FIDO on LoRa is possible. I mean, we're only talking the PHY layer with LoRa. I'd suggest taking a look at Reticulum Network Stack, I've been in contact with Mark Qvist off and on about it and is very, very interesting.
I am a long-time programmer... I did a lot of work on Arduino's, Raspberry pi's Lora, BT, Zigbee, SDR's, et al. Ill be happy to work on interesting projects.
@Steve Miller I believe that's all under the non-profit now as a standard.
@Kaushlesh Chandel Please email me markjarrodhughes@gmail.com
@Steve Miller - we are all about open source, and any development of software / hardware that we fund will need to fall under that umbrella. However, most radios are full of proprietary components so existing technology will sometimes be intellectual property encumbered -- we would have a hard time funding something like a repeater if it had to have no IP in it, from a pragmatic point of view.
@William Stearns Oh, interesting. If it's a well documented modulation type, it's possible it could be used on amateur bands.
@KC1AWV : What’s the use of a crypto networking stack with respect to ham radio? I thought ham radio communication is ought to be in clear text?
@Mark J Hughes I just emailed you.
@Jan Weber The encryption is not intended to hide the message, rather allow the network to work. Anyone on the stack can see and monitor messages, AFAIK. There's a discussion about it in the RNS github.
@Jan Weber in the US at least, encryption to obscure the meaning of the content is prohibited. Command and control can be obscured to my understanding.
I second @John Hays . Was about to say that Ham communication cannot be encrypted
What about steganography? Encoding a hidden (possibly encrypted) signal on top of a cleartext message, in eg. a phase jitter?
Steganography is good... It would need a much larger image payload. And again... its encrypted and not legal
Thank you
Hey folks, I have to hop off. Thank you so much @Dan Maloney for having me and @John Hays on the hack chat! It's been great chatting with everyone.
I thought I should share my call sign. K6FID. I might see you on the radio. :-)
The point of stego is to not get caught.
You bet, I was just about to call time. Thanks Rosy!
Thank you @Rosy Schechter . It was an interesting topic.
73 ll
thanks @Dan Maloney and @fid
bug us with grant proposals ;)
73
@Rosy Schechter Many thanks
73 , thanks for the chat
And thanks to John too! I really appreciate your time today, as well as all the great questions from the crowd. Thanks!
Yes, I have another commitment now. Thanks everybody, I will leave the chat open, but not see a question due to multi-tasking -- 73 to all.
73's
Thanks @Rosy Schechter
Thank you all for participating!
73 de K2LCT
Thanks ARDC! 73 de NE4RD
@Jan Weber - I found the discussion that I mentioned here: https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/issues/69#issuecomment-1167083780
It’s getting late here. Good night!
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