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A event log for Underwater Robotics Hack Chat

Your project is sunk

tom-nardiTom Nardi 02/06/2025 at 03:020 Comments
amok.mcconnell  4:12 PM
Omne usus duplicatus est.
Tim McNerney  4:12 PM
Yup, bio-fouling... I was researching that for a while. Everything likes to grow on your robot. We never tried getting past the two week mark.
Thomas Shaddack  4:12 PM
Thought. Superabsorbent polymers to immobilize leaks. If it gets into the enclosure, it can as well be prevented from sloshing around.
Tony White  4:13 PM
The silicon dessicant sometimes does just this! I'll use a papertowel if I know I have a leak and need to mitigate it for a short time - preventing sloshing is absolutely key
Thomas Shaddack  4:13 PM
Medical fields deal extensively with biofilms. Maybe they could have materials and tricks up their sleeves.
Tony White  4:13 PM
Omne usus duplicatus est. - love it @amok.mcconnell
Tony White  4:13 PM
there are solutions to biofouling, but unfortunately they are (literally) poison to the ocean, because they have to be!
Tony White  4:14 PM
copper in anti-fouling paints is being phased out in many places as a result
Thomas Shaddack  4:14 PM
THANKS for the Latin!
amok.mcconnell  4:14 PM
There was a study of shark skins by James cook university 20 years ago, on the use of surface microgrooves to deter barnacles on ships. It kinda works.
Thomas Shaddack  4:14 PM
Copper metal? Textured teflon?
Tim McNerney  4:15 PM
@shaddack The marine industry has been dealing with bio-fouling forever. As Tony points out, it is the toxicity of anti-fouling paints that has become an issue more recently. I've never tried building a robot entirely out of copper. Is that disallowed too?
Tony White  4:16 PM
teflon - that's a lot of forever chemicals to put in the environment!
Tim McNerney  4:16 PM
@amok.mcconnel I looked into the "shark skin" patterning. Looks promising. No toxins.
Thomas Shaddack  4:17 PM
There are some newly discovered germs that eat the "forever" things.
Tony White  4:18 PM
I hope so!
Thomas Shaddack  4:18 PM
Thought. Controlled release of metal ions from surface by electrochemically modulated corrosion. Something like sacrificial anodes but the other way, and only when needed and where needed.
Tony White  4:20 PM
You're definitely an idea guy @Thomas Shaddack
amok.mcconnell  4:20 PM
The manufacturing process is basically an embossing of plastic using patterned micro-etched plates. It would need development to be adapted for odd curved surfaces.
Tony White  4:20 PM
For anyone still here, I just started this livestream. I'll try to monitor both this and that chat at the same time! https://youtube.com/live/3WR2bp3m36g
Thomas Shaddack  4:25 PM
Yup. Ideas are fun to play with! Often there are solutions already out there, just hiding in some seemingly unrelated field.
Tony White  4:26 PM
Thanks for all the interesting chats folks! Feel free to reach out anytime - tony@bluerobotics or via our support form https://bluerobotics.com/contact/#contact-us-form
Dan Maloney  4:27 PM
Thanks Tony, really appreciate the time. Great discussion, I learned a lot. Thanks all, see you next time
Nicolas Tremblay  4:29 PM
Thanks @Tony White
Thomas Shaddack  4:43 PM
Random thought re the tether. Ukraine battlefield uses drones with optical fibers to work around jammers. Can the same tech be leveraged, possibly even as a surplus once the hostilities end and the toys hit the markets?
Thomas Shaddack  4:46 PM
Random thought. Could the autofocus be implemented outside of the camera, eg. in a module of the cockpit software?
Tony White  4:53 PM
I hope someone develops some sort of autofocus this way, yes, but it will be challenging!
Tony White  4:54 PM
Fiber optics have been used for many years by ROVs - typically these are a pricier option but provide waaaay more bandwidth
Thomas Shaddack  5:18 PM
see ya, was inspiring. thanks!
Tony White  5:20 PM
Sea ya! Thanks all!

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