Shulie TornelSophi Kravitz How many people in here have entries in the Hackaday Prize?
i hav enone
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dydEYy8t2vb_8hE-9_XUh__MclYn-GxiUDLrRH3KOHo/edit#gid=0
GOOGLE DOCSRead this on Google Docs >I've long wondered what the meat popsicle line means.....
I have one
Hey everyone.
"How many people in here have entries in the Hackaday Prize?" Can one become an entry prize ? :-P
Keeping an eye on, I'm cooking and eating... :-)
Shayna: that's what robots pretend.
@Yann Guidon / YGDES As long as it includes some kind of hardware. :)
the question is : What about software entries ? Should the contest entries be only hardware ? or MUST have a HW part ?
Hackaday.io allows software-only projects and doesn't disqualify them
so at least for the next 4 rounds, you must actually build something
But... software is "built..."
we don't say in the official rules that it must be hardware
:D
Nick : hahahaha
and Nick, you're right, it is built
Build something physical.
is there software without hardware? this gets philosophical
and since we don't expressly say it must only be hardware, you can submit a software project
So SW-only project are OK apaprently ?
but it is unlikely to do well because it won't fit the judging critera
huh ?
so there are hidden judging critera?
Fuzzy rules AI judges :-p
how can the judging criteria be so remote from the contest rules ?
they are not remote
sec, looking them up now
ok
are we talking about a programs? there's a pin gallery library in the prize, pretty cool, that would be plain SW... so
It's hard to say that anything is "plain software"
https://hackaday.io/project/20562-mcu-pin-setup
HACKADAYMCU pin setupProof-of-concept: https://hubberthus.github.io/ If you are familiar with development boards widely available, like an Arduino, you most likely looked at the pin-out image for it, because they have different layouts. MCU pin setup is a visual WYSIWYG online tool, which allows you to setup the pin layout by clicking, see information, instant feedback of warnings or errors.
Read this on Hackaday >It must run on something
I entered a couple of C libraries
Me!
If you have the greatest software project in the world, your project will need to demonstrat how to use it, what it runs on, and how it achieves its goals
https://hackaday.io/project/18012-c-spi-library-for-raspberry-pi https://hackaday.io/project/17066-c-gpio-library-for-raspberry-pi
Kind of like how it's very hard these days to have a purely hardware project.
whatever software you write, you have to... oooh what @Mike Szczys said
How thoroughly have the entry requirements been completed?
Does this project address the current challenge?
Does the project benefit society in some way?
Is there base-level planning for the functionality (eg: functional block diagram, list of specifications and how they will be met, etc.)?
How well documented is the project. Could the work be replicated?
Is the project creative, original, functional, and pushing boundaries?
those are the criteria
@Neil K. Sheridan - I think you're fine with a dual raspberry PI setup :)
I'm still confused :D
hehe thanks @davedarko
So Yann
@Frank Buss hhhey frank I used fsrs because they are easier to multiplex and to implement in a diy fashion.
the project you link to has a bunch of hardware projects that the library runs on
you'd be more likely to do well in the contest with one of the hardware projects + the library
I'd say it's even my foundational library :-D
@Yann Guidon / YGDES make sense? :D
alright, next up is a project looking for feedback : https://hackaday.io/project/18760-neosegment-7-segment-display-made-with-neopixels
So I suppose https://hackaday.io/project/20862-simon-says-learn-pi-and-iot fits the criteria better
hm. get back to me when it's alphanumerical :p
@Yann Guidon / YGDES yes, also, I love that project
@Yann Guidon / YGDES Both are great projects.
is @Maksim Surguy here?
@Sophi Kravitz the criteria doesn't mention anything about hardware, it could be like a social media site implementation and would fit :-)
you're right, we don't specify
OK so I understand : let's hack the rules and definitions ? :-P
because we don't want to kill anyone's creativity
but the software/ firmware/ library must run on something
Yann Guidon / YGDES I providede example source code and showed other projects using it
Ah clever on the 7 segment. I guess to match the IOUT goal it'd have to be connected somehow?
somehow i suppose
I think I saw @Maksim Surguy earlier. Does it have the classic A-G arrangement? is it breadboard friendly?
anyone have feedback on https://hackaday.io/project/18760-neosegment-7-segment-display-made-with-neopixels
Looking...
Or make it crazy simple to use, like a regular 7-segment
plus a few pins for color select
My only thing about that project is that I'm not sure how it "makes the world a better place."
But maybe I'm setting the bar too high on that one.
RGB-7segments are cool and fun :-)
more LEDs are always better
@Maksim Surguy - there's room for improvement, make it breadboard friendly, and easy to adapt from a classic 7seg to yours (arrange the segments in order like classic ones)
@Maksim Surguy Have you tried chaining more digits to the display? Since it's using a data bus, maybe you can have a lot of them
I agree with the "make the world a better place" thingy
I see the 7-segment thing as a building block. It's not a complete project yet. It needs to be part of a bigger picture.
Frank : that's what my clients think (until they see the bill)
the world can't have enough LEDs :-)
Like... large color coded clock for the hard-of-seeing
Frank : sure it can...
I do see some value in the sense that sometimes you want to make a BIG seven segment display and there aren't fantastic tools for that.
We're looking for impactful projects, something that could make someone's quality of life better.
RGB = more color
more color = more fun
more fun = more happy people
more happy people = better world @Nick Sayer
@Alberto welcome!
I would also like to get some feedback on my current project
scale up that 7-seg to like n-inch tall segments, and have yellow be for AM and purple be for PM
post the link
@Daniel S. Don't limit it to just two - you could fade from one to the other across dusk/dawn.
#MATT - Modular Audio Toolkit for Teensy
"make someone's quality of life better." that's so... unclear
+1 for Yann
@Yann Guidon / YGDES I disagree. It's very clear, it's just not black and white.
There are many shades of "better."
@Nick Sayer but AM/PM is binary. that's all i was getting at.
Well put @Nick Sayer
Well Yann if you find a way to easily clean water or make antibiotics in extreme.environments that is making someone else's life better
#MATT - Modular Audio Toolkit for Teensy
let's please not ask that question for every project
@Michele Perla A nice fancy clock makes life better too, just by a far smaller margin than clean water. :)
@davedarko Fair enough.
If you have clean water but can't see your clock, the clock's margin is better ;-)
Better? greater. whatever.
One example : my quality of life would have been better if some stupid Intel engineer didn't let a race condition slip in the laptop's chipset, that allowed some script kiddy to ruin one year of my work. Or if SDRAM sticks didn't allow someone to overwrite the chip configuration, making me lose 200€. You see, it's all relative...
#FirstWorldProblems :D
nice hardware, but might be useful to have an example application, like a Moog synthesizer implementation
Lol laughing at all the commens
Thanks for the feedback
Of course.. There is always relativity :)
Heh, of course it's all relative. And first world problems are still problems
I guess I need to update the logs, those are old
For this chat I think I choose to be a most casual observer........
ou could take a look at the types of projects that won, in previous years. For example, the eyedriveomatic.
Here's the latest pic : https://twitter.com/msurguy/status/857981018124374016
Anyways I would like to know if my diagram is unse
so, whom do you aim to help with MATT, Michele?
I think there is always merit in recognizing a valid problem and trying to solve it
Oh one more tiny bit of feedback... For those not using KiCad, it might be nice to post a PDF schematic s well
Is understandable*
@Michele Perla the IOAPEX is the most interesting part of that project to me. that's a lot of muxing.
Question: If yo do not have many views or skulls are you pretty much out of the race for a prize?
Thanks man
@BDM I hope not. :)
@BDM No, it just may have gone under the radar. Our judges look at every single project entered into the prize.
BDM : that's not a criterion, AFAIK
@Alberto see my link to the pic above, it is chainable
statistically yes
@Michele Perla yes, it is clear, but you should definitely add some concrete use cases for it, what you can do with it
thanks for info
in my opinion :D
@davedarko hopes... deleted
I tried to think of something that would make as many ppl's lives better as I could! But still be feasible - vs. like well you could design off-grid village w renewable energy + water/waste processing + plant growing but it would be a bit large-scale n unfeasible!!
Hey guys sorry I'm a bit late got times mixed up.
How much does the voter/seed funding results sway judging?? Will the judges spend more time looking at pieces with more "likes" or are they all looked at equally?
@BDM - I just recognized your cleaning robot car, great project!
Neil: you show the practical aspects of "trying to enhance the world forcefully"
For my entry, I had a personal itch to scratch, but in thinking about it, I realized that it solved some rather important problems.
sorry @Shulie Tornel - I'm missing @Radomir Dopieralski - he's the hardcore realistic one
personal motivation is big with my project, not to actually win the prize
@Alex Williams no one will be looking at the likes for judging purposes
Awesome, thank you
i dont think a project involving treatment of human waste will win .....
@Maksim Surguy OK I just saw it, coool!
TegwynTwmffat : recycling spammers ? :-D
I like to refer to this to look at what is considered "social change". This in no way reflects how the judges score. http://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/sustainable-development-goals/
@BDM are you on your way to the talking dog from UP, the movie?
@TegwynTwmffat "Clean water and sanitation" is in that list @Shulie Tornel just shared
@davedarko no, more of your feeling projecting how the dog is doing
i dont think the sponsors will like waste orientated projects?
ah okay. I saw a sketch of the dogcollar and got a vibe
@davedarko When my dog barks this way it means this (scared, hurt, mad, or a spaz)
@TegwynTwmffat you need to impress the judges, not the sponsors.
pretty cool, work on the title and description maybe
If you make waste useful or clean then I'm sure thats a positive.
sponsors trump the judges?
sponsors have nothing to do with judging
oh good!davedarko
@TegwynTwmffat - wich one are we talking about?
Shulie Tornel Yes!
TegwynTwmffat just general waste projects
so all
Hello everyone!
@davedarko thanks, I'll think of something more down to earth. Maybe back to my "lazy" ... 9000 series
Does someone have a waste-processing project?!
yes ... me
Mike : "Clean water and sanitation" is a solved problem for many countries. Other countries where it's not have issues that are political, economical and social, if not religious: it's not something that technology can solve :-(
HI Jack!
i did not work on it as i thought it would lose
one of my projects recycles an old mechanical clock :-)
Michele Perla Well the thing is that as we said before there is different levels of lfie changing
davedarko there are still two days left @TegwynTwmffa
Michele Perla life changing*
@davedarko LOL !!!!
Ok here is a realitively uneducated science question. If i took waste water and put it through an HHO generator could i turn the HHO back into H2O?
I have a soft spot for clocks. Clocks and guns. Both are simple to describe, but doing it right requries exacting engineering and performance.
Yes, and I think every country has different levels of health issues to tackle and solve.
oh great! Well I think that is pretty cool @TegwynTwmffat
why not just distill the waste wateer in that case ?
it will be internet connected and NTP synchronized
the water?
ha
oh. :D sorry.
my clock :-)
@Nick Sayer Could the same not be said about engines?
@Frank Buss https://hackaday.io/project/20156-raspberry-pi-zero-w-desk-clock
Clocks are awesome :-)
next question from the sheet maybe?
@Frank Buss thanks again for the feedback. I will write some use cases in the next days. First I need to lay out the initial specs for the second and third module.
@davedarko Will you limit the amount of projects per person for the next years funding round?
Hence less easy to desibe
You just wanted to move on cuz you knew your question was next, Dave.
lol
hehe sure :)
haha
soooo, will ya?
no we were drifting :-)
I don't see why we would. Do you see an issue with this? Like someone adding 20 projects?
@Nick Sayer nice clock
that happend
oh I have something related
@Frank Buss Thank you!
so I was wondering, what the stand of HaD would be on that
How would that effect the # of likes they get?
It has to be a good project to get likes, right?
no
i would say kinda
LOL
Apparently not
just good social engineering ;) right Yann?
We DQ projects that cheat.
my clock project:
does not have to be good. just useful :)
https://hackaday.io/project/20474-antique-nixie-clock
social skills help
likes are not proportional
Nixie clocks are awesome
I suppose that's why there's a team of judges
filtering the stuff
Entering multiple projects is not cheating.... but like-bots are
right_
Have a class of peers/co workers also helps
I made a helper gizmo for Nixie clocks.
I have a related question if I might
but I really don't know how it changes the world :-(
davedarko okay cool :) will there be a statistic on how many likes were given per person?
I wan't to know how much likes I gave that made money :D
Yann Guidon / YGDES Dave : good one !
hm, i'm not sure if the's a way to pull that info. We can find out, tho.
there is someone on this site that does all the stats for everything
There has to be a way.
Frank
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