If you follow Yet Another (Discrete) Clock, you know this project uses quite a lot of MOSFET in the easy-to-solder TO-92 package. A bit less than 500, including about 300 N-FET (BS170 or 2N7000) and the rest are P-FET (BS250).
The N-FET are OK: I could source 300×2N7000 for around 10$, 3 cents per piece is a nice deal and a decent price for the project.
The P-FET are another story :I could find cheap reels in SOT23 but the prices are much higher for the TO-92 package and there seems to be a sort of shortage in the usual cheap markets. Earlier this year, an order never made it to my home (among other postal problems) and a 200pc lot was found to have a reverse pinout (https://hackaday.io/project/9376-yet-another-discrete-clock/log/37927-it-was-too-easy).
This post is about another escalation in the BS250 horror story. I found a decently priced lot of 100 on eBay (due to Brexit) and this time ordered only one lot (I was not feeling rich, and at 20GBP, or about 24€ for 100, the unit price is almost 10× higher than the N-channel). Since the precedent lot (2×100) was functional (despite the reversed pinout) and was delivered, I bought from the same seller. Delivery was pretty fast (maybe due to summer vacations and less business) so I was ready to leave another good feedback.
Just to be sure, I tested a few parts from the bag. I don't remember why but you never know, and I wondered what was the pinout this time. Guess what ? I found a MOSET but in N-channel, not P. WTF ? It's marked "BS250" !
I take another then another and start to find a "mixed bag"
- Some parts are indeed P-channel but a minority
- Most are N-channel
- Some weird arrangements, like dual diodes, or very malformed junctions
- The surface of several packages look altered, like attacked by acid, and a couple have no marking. Others have a different style of marking...
After I sent a complaint to the seller, I received the following:
« Hi,client.So sorry for your trouble.Could you let me know how many
pieces are not working as excepted,I will check with our supplier for
this issue.Regards, Namedeleted »
Wait, you send me worse-than-counterfeit parts then you want me to do your job, for which I paid you ?
Alright, since you wanted it, let's waste 2 hours testing all the parts by hand.
I could identify:
- 25×P-channel (more or less BS250, I only tested the simplest parameters)
- 61×N-channel (some sort of 2N7000 but I didn't care about the pinout)
- The rest are malformed, non-functional parts.
Only 1/4 of the order can qualify as conform.
Ah, China...
Pictures to come...
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2N7000 are the only TO-92 MOSFET in the aliexpress stores I shop. Everything else are huge parts or SMT.
BSS84 are the cheapest P-MOSFET in SOT23 on cut tape - unlisted manufacturer. They are $1.99 for a 100. I bought some from here previously, but haven't tested them.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-100pcs-SMD-mosfet-transistor-SOT-23-BSS84/506373_32360564835.html
You didn't use the tripod style footprint, otherwise the SOT23 could have fitted some what.
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I got a couple of reels of BSS84 and the complementary, but SMD is not beginners-friendly :-/
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That sucks. I can only imagine how this happens - ebay seller gets a random bag-o-parts swept up off the factory floor, pulls one out - it happens to be a BS250 - and that's what gets listed.
"P-channel" BJT's like the 2N3906 are really cheap...maybe you should consider bipolars :P
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no bipolars, I stick to CMOS :-)
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