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  Sophi Kravitz • 01/13/2017 at 23:52 • 0 comments

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  so no no...that'll stay

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  Inventor is still around, right? :D

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  BTW...I mentioned it, but now you can do non-modal commands like block select stuff

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  (I have an Inventor license too, I use it all the time)

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  oh yah, inventor is alive and well

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  ahh, nice

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  inventor is a fun tool. I really enjoy it. long before my time at autodesk. :)

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  They did successfully move away from the command line in it, though of course you still can

  charliex says:2 hours ago

  i'd still like to see non blockng ulp's but i realise that might break a lot of things

  Teuniz says:2 hours ago

  I get a bit scary when I hear "server side"...

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  I will get non-blocking ULPs if my life depends on it.

  Jorge Garcia says:2 hours ago

  I want to see non-blocking ulps that can accept mouse clicks. I'm with you Charlie

  Teuniz says:2 hours ago

  We will not use additions that require an internet connection.

  Jorge Garcia says:2 hours ago

  Matt is already convinced

  davedarko says:2 hours ago

  could the "beep ON | OFF" get an OFF default and a GUI checkbox? that'd be great ;)

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  charliex: I'd like to see some kind of live scripting ability. triggered events, stuff that can help you while you work.

  charliex says:2 hours ago

  yep exactly, sometimes i fill in a ulp settings and i miss the target and have to redo it, usually when laying out circular pattern leds ;)

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  I mean, the ability to create it. Give tools to the ULP community and it'll be awesome

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  @Teuniz online / offline is interesting. I think the push is to of course handle licensing the autodesk way, but the desktop application will remain on the desktop until it makes sense to do otherwise.

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  that licensning model will require that you connect to retrieve a license but then you can merrily go on your way and use the SW.

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  and it will work in an offline mode with no data being pushed into the cloud

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  Sure....however, I will use whatever application is more reliable than the website we're using right now :)

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  (unless you want to do it...which means we should add that capability)

  Teuniz says:2 hours ago

  So, in future, we can't use Eagle anymore without an internet connection???

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  some stuff is just inherently better with a server side data model...like interfacing to mfg

  Arsenijs says:2 hours ago

  Teuniz, you should read what heš saying

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  you can. but you will need to connect to get a license.

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  I'd be OK with a combo of online or dongle license. If I need to work without internet (which happens) then there is at least a chance I didn't lose my dongle

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  after that, you can disconnect.

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  is eagle on your computer now.

  charliex says:2 hours ago

  and download it ;)

  Arsenijs says:2 hours ago

  Internet connection will be required exactly once, from what I understand.

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  I have used Eagle at Burning Man to diagnose an art car controller PCB

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  we'll handle the timeout between successive logins. we set this to two weeks for Fusion 360 and nobody complained

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  I don't get just one connection

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  so it does require a successive login...but with a heartbeat of two weeks between requests for the token

  charliex says:2 hours ago

  online licensing is fine, but you just need the long time between checks or offline, since stuff like last month or so happens whenhalf the internet goes out

  Garrett Mace says:2 hours ago

  How about 52 weeks :D

  technolomaniac says:2 hours ago

  it's pretty lax. and if we need to make...

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  Sophi Kravitz • 01/13/2017 at 22:54 • 0 comments

  Questions/ discussion sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18731w1yfgBcYex6_fATdqN73-3HR5MbewZPcUmiO_o0/edit?usp=sharing

  Jorge Garcia : Hi Sophi

  Jorge Garcia: Hi Charliex

  Sophi Kravitz: HI Jorge!

  technolomaniac and I'm matt, I work at autodesk. I manage eagle, 123D, tinkercad, a ton of other little bitty stuff

  technolomaniac :)

  charliex hey, hey jorge thanks for the help with the "next" stuff last month

  technolomaniac also along for the ride is a buddy of mine Sam whom I worked with at altium.

  technolomaniac and full disclosure...before we jump into eagle:

  technolomaniac 1) yes, I was a director on the product team at altium

  technolomaniac 2) I worked at supplyframe which owns hackaday

  Jorge Garcia Your welcome Charliex

  Samuel Sattel Hello Everyone.

  Jorge Garcia Hi Sam

  technolomaniac 3) I build a ton of electronic stuff, mostly wireless. a lot of RF. a lot of interesting things.

  technolomaniac so...that said, I came into Autodesk to execute the acquisition of EAGLE.

  technolomaniac on advice from me.

  technolomaniac I use it. but between sam and I, I think we've used just about every tool.

  technolomaniac and I'm super excited to talk about what we're doing with EAGLE

  technolomaniac you'll find that the future of the tools is pretty much a who's-who of what users have asked for along with some things you might not have wanted or known you wanted (hopefully) until you get them

  technolomaniac :)

  technolomaniac (inner voice: man, I sure hope I dont screw that up)

  technolomaniac so one example is routing improvments.

  Garrett Mace "Signal names on traces" is a good example of something I didn't know I wanted, but use a lot

  Jorge Garcia Same here.

  technolomaniac oh man, that was a big one.

  technolomaniac one of the first things we added post-ac

  Christoph oh there comes a question

  Christoph (I'm just stalking that spreadsheet)

  Garrett Mace This is not super swamped at the moment, is the spreadsheet thing necessary?

  charliex yeah signal name is great, i mixed up d+/d- on a usb host on the eagle before it, got the pcbs and then its sitting staring me in the face with the new signal names

  Sophi Kravitz no, it's more to keep a record

  technolomaniac

  Sophi Kravitz not necessary at all, use it if you want

  ed pataky :) Hello

  technolomaniac that's an example of the signal names on traces and pads.

  jarek319 oh the auto-enabling signal names on the baord was genius btw

  Jorge Garcia Hi Ed!

  jarek319 *board

  technolomaniac so someone asked about including commonly used ULPs in the build.

  technolomaniac says: 2 hours ago

  this is always possible.

  jarek319 says: 2 hours ago

  basically stuff like circular array placement, smashing, etc

  Jorge Garcia says: 2 hours ago

  Which ones are missing?

  technolomaniac says: 2 hours ago

  we're working on the licesning for this (legalese) inside of ADSK, but definitely we want this stuff included.

  technolomaniac says: 2 hours ago

  we're working on the licesning for this (legalese) inside of ADSK, but definitely we want this stuff included.

  Jorge Garcia says: 2 hours ago

  Circular array placement is in.

  jarek319 says: 2 hours ago

  community ulps and are great since they help speed things up, but they tend to lose coherence after a version change, so I was wondering if there's a way the community can recommend things for inclusion/rework

  technolomaniac says: 2 hours ago

  there's an attribution component of this we want to get right.

  Edwin Robledo says: 2 hours ago

  HI, made it

  technolomaniac says: 2 hours ago

  that's for sue.

  technolomaniac sure

  charliex non blocking ulp's

  Jorge Garci You can find it under tools > component placement.

  Garrett Mace I would go the other way, remove the crustier ULPs and make a community site for them. Perhaps a ULP browser and way to manage updates

  jarek319 i know i was using it as an example :)

  Dirty Engineer I loved that added signal names.. I don't know how I did anything before.

  Jorge Garcia Ah sorry about that

  technolomaniac we can include them and also, I'd like to stress that if it's a ULP and it's awesome, then it should be driving our feature development...

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