Logs:
1. How does it work ?
Just a last minute cute hack before I went to a camping trip in summer 2009.
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Logs:
1. How does it work ?
This system is a pretty neat hack and I intended to publish for some years... The time seems to be now :-)
First, let's just consider the REG104. This reference is now obsolete and replace by an improved version, by the way. It's still a great regulator with very low dropout and very low leakage (so it can be left connected to the battery without significan discharge). The very low drop is possible thanks to an internal N-FFET polarised by an internal charge pump. For portable LED lighting, this is great because the battery can still work well close to the LED voltage, in "dropout mode":
I could have used an adjustable version to set a specific working point for the LED but I kept the fixed version at 3.3V and experimentally set the series resistance to get a significant light output without much heat. I even soldered a small copper tab for heatsinking of the REG104 but the LED shouldn't get hot. The LED is a leftover from the project described in #Cheap linear LED temperature regulator
Now, consider that the usual pins (Vin, Vout, GND) are supplemented with the "Enable" pin, which is active high. Normally, it's tied to Vin.
If the EN pin is tied to Vout, it could "latch" the state to ON.
But then it is necessary to turn it on or off, so two push-buttons are required, with series resistors of suitable values to override the latch.
In order of priority:
Well, I just described a kind of set-reset latch !
I want the battery to be totally disconnected when its voltage is below 2.93V. That's a standard voltage for reset controlling chips, such as MAX809, TPS3809 etc.: 3.3V-10%=2.93V.
If I connect the voltage monitor on the battery side, it will continuously draw some current, even if it is small. It is not desired because it will reduce the shelf storage time.
Ideally, the monitor is on the LED side so it is powered when the LED is on.
It should pull down the EN pin when the voltage drops below 2.93V, but instead of overriding the feedback path of the 100K resistor, the feedback goes through the monitor.
The type of monitor I use has a little delay so you have to push the ON button for 1/2s. It can be seen as a protection agains transients.
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I found it in a drawer after 3 years without use : it still worked but failed after I tried to recharge it.
R.I.P. :-(
Ahhh....great, I understand. Very interesting circuit, I have to keep that in mind...
Thank you so much for your description !!!! :-))
Thanks !
It's an evolution of a previous design I made for an artist, maybe I should document it here too.
Hi, could you please explain the function the reg104 and the TPS3809? Never before seen such a combination... does the TPS changes its reset level each time it´s toggled with the momentary button?
Kind regards,
Mike
Hallo Mike,
Yes I intend to write a log about how it works. It's in the evergrowing "todo" list :-)
(poke me if I'm late)
So looks like there are 2 momentary buttons - on and off. When the EN pin at REG104 (LDO) is pulled high, it turns on power and drives the LED.
TPS3809 is a power supply supervisor. Its output (/Reset) stay high when the supply is above a preset value. That signal is fed back to EN so that it stays on. When someone presses the Off button, EN is shorted to ground and that turns off the LDO.
Now when the battery is dead, the TPS3809 output stays low to shut off the LDO.
Interesting design as the power supply supervisor is powered off, so that save some more power. TPS3809 has a reset delay, so the circuit has some immunity to random glitches. :)
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Did you measure the battery capacity? Your battery looks like the BRC type, which could be a fake, it is listed here as a fake battery:
http://danyk.cz/test18650_en.html
Instead of the claimed 5000 mAh, he measured only 426 mAh for the BRC brand.
I got a similar battery, brand name "GIF", also only about 500 mAh. The seller claimed an impossible high capacity of 9900 mAh:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/9900-mah-18650-accus/msg2725094/#msg2725094
And there are sellers who offer 12000 mAh batteries, crazy. Real capacity was 1500 mAh. Still searching for a high quality genuine 3000 mAh 18650 battery.