Rework of one (actually 2) non-working cheap 2,4 GHz WiFi-Yagi(s)
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So I recently bought two 2,4GHz Yagis from different sellers on AliExpress for ~12€ each.
The first one was actually not for me but for a friend who is trying to extend the range of his WiFi-dependent drone. Mine serves primary as a range extender for my home WiFi so that I have access to the music server when BBQ'ing in the garden (and my smartphone-addicted friends can use Spotify or WhatsApp or whatever).
Both antennas had EXACTLY the same dodgy assembly 'mistakes' documented here (The first one was fixed in the same way, but I didn't document it from start to finish).
There seem to be a lot of similar antennas on eBay, AliExpress etc. and these could be common problems with many of them not working as intended, so I decided to document my findings.
Upon the first test via a Ralink USB WiFi-Dongle I noticed that the reception was actually worse than the integrated WiFi of my Laptop.
The length and spacing of the director rods / tubes also seems a little too even - a 'properly' calculated Yagi should perhaps have some more variation, for example as explained by this excellent tutorial here:
https://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html
Investigating further with "horst", a Linux WLAN monitoring and troubleshooting tool, I discovered that the antenna had no directionality at all, there was poor reception and signal strength regardless of the way it was pointed in regard to my (and my neighbor's) router / access points. It could only pick up the closest access point and displayed a very modest signal strength.
First thing I noticed when checking for continuity on the antenna cable was that the antenna frame was connected to the shielding AND the core of the coax wire (!).
According to Wikipedia, the antenna frame and the director/reflector rods of a Yagi should NOT be electrically connected at all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yagi%E2%80%93Uda_antenna
The active element CAN be a "folded dipole", that means the core and the shielding of the coax are connected to the opposite ends of a loop-style antenna element like the one used in this Yagi, so continuity between shielding and core alone would be intentional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole_antenna#Folded_dipole
Next I disassembled the antenna / pulled off the active antenna element (you can actually "wiggle" it off to the front of the antenna - when fixing the first antenna I unnecessarily removed the reflector rod and mounting plate at the back to get access).
As I suspected (because of the location and length of the mounting screws) there was continuity between the metal sleeve / 'cable gland' of the active antenna element and the mounting screw towards the back end of the antenna.
Somewhat like the 'long screw damage' on Apple products... This screw was ~0.7mm too long.
Next I removed the hot glue used to 'seal' the active antenna element and found a piece of black wire embedded in the hot glue. On the first antenna the wire was actually soldered in as a bridge (!) between both ends of the folded dipole, on the second antenna one end of the wire seemed to be loose.
On the first antenna, the screw was longer, actually punched a hole in the sleeve and shorted the coax inside...
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The shield braid is SUPPOSED to be connected to the sleeve. The sleeve is very obviously a quarter wave stub which you can verify by measuring. Should be in the neighborhood of 3.25 cm. It serves as both a choke to prevent RF from leaking out of the antenna on the surface of the coax, and as an impedance matching balun.
The sleeve is only ~2cm long, so this seems not to be the case. Also, both antennas had only loose contact between shielding braid and metal sleeve, there was no provision to really secure contact between the two items and nothing soldered together.
You can see it in picture No. 14 where I pulled out the coax out of the antenna after desoldering it.
Because of the way this kind of antenna is constructed, there is also NO WAY to prevent the sleeve from shorting to the whole rest of the antenna body b/c of the mounting screw which inevitably HAS to touch the sleeve the way it is constructed.
When I researched Yagis a bit, I could not find any recommendation of using a quarterwave stub on the coax for impedance matching (or something similar) in conjunction with a folded dipole feed (which in itself is already a form of impedance matching), so I am really not sure about that idea. But I generally have not much experience in that area.
https://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html
http://www.deserthound.co.uk/amateur-radio/circuits/m1byt-wifi.html
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/antennas/yagi/yagi-feed-impedance-matching.php
http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/antennas/dipole/folded_dipole.php
Somebody else seems to have made similar experiences with this kind of antenna (mine resembles Type 'C' in this comparison):
https://rsaxvc.net/blog/2015/4/19/WiFi_Yagi_SWR_Shootout.html
A 2 cm sleeve would likely be too short to be effective as a sleeve balun at the 13 cm band unless the velocity factor of the coax is very low. But if you want to research the topic, google "bazooka balun".
Great bit of detective work! I have had similar experiences with dipoles for 433mHz. Forgive me if I am talking rubbish here, but the folded dipole is theoretically improved by feeding it from a balun otherwise the coax braid may start radiating RF. Hopefully someone with a much better understanding of antennas will chip in here and advise if making a 1/4 wave stub balun out of the coax will be worth the effort.
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Thank you for publishing your experencies and sharing with us. Before I found your analysis, I disassembled an identical antenna. With the glue removed, I found the center of the coaxial outlet connected to one end of the dipole, the shield connected to the other end. I measured the antenna in this configuration to have a 10 dB gain over the standard router antenna (a 120 mm stub). The mounting plate was removed during this measurement.
I also found a 'piece of black wire' embedded in the glue. Close inspection showed that this is actually a piece of coaxial cable, 1,2 mm o.d. and just 40 mm long. Then I made a calculation of the length of a balun needed to match the folded dipole to the coaxial outlet cable of the antenna for 2400 Hz. For a coax cable with a velocity factor of 0,66, this length should be 41 mm. So my guess is that the antenna is designed with a proper balun, but the assembly is sloppy and repair is needed. I am stil working on the antenna...