PCB Hack Chat with OSH Park

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Dan Sheadel and Drew Fustini join us in the Hack Chat.

Dan is an original member of the @OSH Park team responsible for countless perfect purple PCBs. He enjoys designing tiny useless robots and mentoring students building better ones. He made KiCad users happy last year by supporting native .kicad_pcb uploads.

@Drew Fustini is not only the purveyor of OSH Park's purple PCBs, but he's often hard to miss at events dressed in purple. He's also a board member of the BeagleBoard.org Foundation and a vigorous advocate for Open Source Hardware and Free Software. When he has time in between tweets that highlight the communities projects, embedded systems and the Linux kernel fascinate him.

Co-hosted by @Jasmine Brackett from @Tindie and Hackaday.io's @Shulie Tornel. This Hack Chat is part of a collaboration Hackaday & Tindie to bring content and events that encourage engineers and inventors to prototype and bring their ideas to market.

We'll be talking about:

What would Hackaday & Tindie folk like to see from their PCB supplier?
Innovations in small and medium scale PCB services
Meeting environmental regulations for PCB manufacture in the USA
OSH Park's shared projects, and how you can now link to your Hackaday.io profile or product on Tindie (or elsewhere)
Other tips & tricks for perfect PCBs

Here's the sheet to guide the discussion.

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PCB Hack Chat with OSH Park Transcript Pt. 2
Shulie Tornel • 06/23/2017 at 20:30 • 0 comments

Jasmine Brackett Last question from @Dirty Engineer - "Is it possible to add a "Thanks" button in the shared project section?"
oshpark good idea... we have redesign in the works
oshpark and we'll keep that in mind.
Dan Sheadel A "thanks" button is on our roadmap! We have a _lot_ of ideas on how to improve our shared projects, and we're going to start working on that in the next couple months.
Nick Sayer @Kevin Reflow fixes all that for you. Trust the force.
Andrew Sowa @Dirty Engineer +1
Nick Sayer Surface tension force, specifically.
Jasmine Brackett This might be a good time to mention that Drew has written up some instructions on how you can link to your Hackaday.io project or Tindie product from your OSH Park shared project page - https://blog.oshpark.com/2017/06/05/how-to-share-your-project/
ecomer Re hobbyists doing SMD, I did some a while back using just a hand soldering iron. However, recently bough via eBay a Youyu 858D hot air station and I love it! Makes SMD easy. Deposited paste via syringe but just received a stencil to try with current board
Nick Sayer Make a reflow oven for yourself. Even easier and better than hot air.
Kevin @Nick true but I don't have the flux or other stuff yet to do reflow soldering, a fine enough tip to do, or a hands free magnifying glass so I can even see what I'm doing with some of the parts.
oshpark @Jasmine Brackett thanks, yeah, please checkout the example shared project that I created. We would love to see more links in them
Kevin I don't do SMD enough to justify all the extra expense.
oshpark Good example of a shared project using markdown to link to resources https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/mly5ktob
ronald.sutherland I like to tap the toaster oven when the solder is liquid to help the surface tension magic.
ecomer I've considered a reflow oven but it can't get much easier than I've experienced with the 858D
Dan Sheadel On the whole, we're a bit dissatisfied with the current iteration of our Shared Projects, and are working on a new revision to really help users make good documentation.
oshpark (I used @Michael Welling 's BeagleWire as example :)
Jasmine Brackett For Tindie sellers, you can also link to your OSH Park shared project from your product page. Look for the recently added Design Files link. You can already link to Hackaday.io using the Documentation link
PK Solder paste from eBay, Flux pen from Amazon, ENIG makes it easy enough with an iron
oshpark Yup, @Jasmine Brackett . Example:
* Tindie store: [**Pesky Products**](https://www.tindie.com/stores/onehorse/)
[![Tindie badge](https://d2ss6ovg47m0r5.cloudfront.net/badges/tindie-mediums.png)](https://www.tindie.com/stores/onehorse/?re=offsite_badges&utm_source=sellers_onehorse&utm_medium=badges&utm_campaign=badge_medium)
Andrew Sowa My microscope was $200 if you want the extra help
Nick Sayer I'm very, very lucky in that there's a local store that sells syringe tubes of SnPb paste.
ecomer Did " it easy enough with an iron" a few years ago - now loving the hot air tool
Dirty Engineer @PK When in doubt, add more flux. Really the key to soldering imo
Jasmine Brackett I don't think @Kris Winer is here today.
Michael Welling @oshpark an example for what?
Radomir Dopieralski I wonder if hackaday could add oshpark as one of the 'service' options in project links, for easier linking
Dan Sheadel I love hot air rework. It's such a nice process. <3
W5VO Also, it's always easier to add solder than to remove too much
PK That's the truth @Dirty Engineer , need to get that flux smoke all over the room
Radomir Dopieralski
@W5VO there are wicks, but ugh
ecomer Nick, I live in middle of nowhere - thus depend mail order a lot
Michael Welling I have a video a video of the reflow of the BeagleWire if you guys wanna see it
Jasmine Brackett We've still got loads of questions on the list. @msurguy asks "When will we see 3D printed circuit boards? What's stopping from depositing all layers with some inkjet - like technology?
Jasmine Brackett @Maksim Surguy
Kevin @msurguy Its been done...
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PCB Hack Chat with OSH Park Transcript Pt.1
Shulie Tornel • 06/23/2017 at 19:55 • 0 comments

Jasmine Brackett Hello Everyone. Welcome to this week's Hack Chat! !!!
Bhavesh Kakwani Woo
Shulie: Welcome!! We have tons of questions in our sheet already! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHahHN4kU0YBjMgrZMU9ntrmdDD8JOUmpHX2mR6Ok0w/edit#gid=0
Jasmine Brackett Jasmine from @Tindie here. It's great to be hosting this Hackchat with the help of @Shulie Tornel and the Hackaday team.
zakqwy KiCad or otherwise. I usually do direct kicad uploads nowdays but I'd send Gerbers if needed for plated slots
Shulie: Hopefully we can get to every question. :)
billybob Hi everyone
Jasmine Brackett This Hack Chat is part of a collaboration Hackaday & Tindie to bring content and events that encourage engineers and inventors to prototype and bring their ideas to market.
Jasmine Brackett We're super pleased to have @Dan Sheadel and @Drew Fustini from @oshpark here today.
Michael Welling \o/
Dan Sheadel Hio!
oshpark Hi everyone! -Drew Fustini
Yann Guidon / YGDES Hi Drew !
Kevin @Jarrett OSHPark told me they couldn't do plated slots when I asked them. I did see that work around but it it felt a bit like a pain to me.
Shayna Hey Drew!
Jasmine Brackett As @Shulie mentioned, there is a question sheet here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZHahHN4kU0YBjMgrZMU9ntrmdDD8JOUmpHX2mR6Ok0w/edit?usp=sharing
Jasmine Brackett Once we've got through those and we have time there will be an open session.
oshpark Hi @Shayna and @Yann Guidon / YGDES! -drew
Michael Welling made it just in time
Radomir Dopieralski that should be about tomorrow noon
Jasmine Brackett I'm sure a lot of you, especially those in the US are familiar with OSH Park, but now I'm going to ask them to give a little intro about themselves.....
Dan Sheadel About us as people, or us as a company?
Shulie: Both? :)
Jasmine Brackett Yep
Jarrett wait, you're people?!!
Radomir Dopieralski a company that allows people to retain their identities?
Nick Sayer We are all individuals! Just like everyone else!
oshpark RE: OSH Park, we're a community printed circuit board (PCB) service! We bring you high quality, lead free boards (ENIG finish), manufactured in the USA, and shipped for free to anywhere in the world.
Kevin Dare I say, Soylent green is people. :)
Radomir Dopieralski yum yum
oshpark I'm Drew Fustini and have been with OSH Park for about a year and half now. I love Hackaday.io!
Michael Welling what about soylent purple?
Dan Sheadel we have a can of that actually!
Dan Sheadel It's incredibly strong industrial grape scent. We don't open it.
oshpark Laen (the founder and owner) saw a cool purple circuit board at Dorkbot PDX years ago
oshpark (the portland electronics meetup)
Jasmine Brackett I heard a rumour that almost every purple PCB goes through your hands @Dan?
oshpark and he decided it would be a nice color to use for their batch PCB service
Dan Sheadel No, no, That'd be Kelly!
Jasmine Brackett Ah sorry, I was misinformed. How big is the team?
Dan Sheadel So, maybe a bit about where we're at. As drew's typing out, we started as a side project that grew out of Dorkbot a few years back.
Dan Sheadel About 4 years ago, was when Laen decided this was either "hire some folks or quit", and Kelly and I were the results of that. :)
Dan Sheadel So, up until about a year or so ago, she was depanelling about 95% of all our orders, and got to admire all of the pretty board art.
Yann Guidon / YGDES :-)
Jasmine Brackett Very nice. And this is all in Portland?
Dan Sheadel So, if you ever think your cool PCB art feels like a waste, nope! We love it! We still snap photos of the amazing ones for our personal collections.
zakqwy nice, i'll bet you've seen some great ones!
Dirty Engineer For all the pretty boards.. there has got to be some that you just cringe when you see.. terrible layout and non functional
Kevin We need to start putting "Hello, Kelly" in the PCB art work. :)
Dan Sheadel Yeah! All our shipping and handling is done in our office in Lake Oswego. We currently have 4 office workers: Kelly, Gabe, and Kim who do shipping and depanelling, and...
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