UPDATE: FAILED SIMPLIFIED SETUP. REVISED.
Unfailed: Understanding/explanation of original fail, at the bottom.
Simplified Setup:
5V ^ | | _|_ + / \ | Vs | V_Source (to Measure) \___/ | - | | + \ R2 / V_R2 \ | - v GNDWe want to measure V_Source, with an oscilloscope. So, attach Channel 1 to V_Source+, attach Channel 2 to V_Source-
Vin
^
|
V1 *---------------> 'Scope Ch1
_|_ +
/ \
| Vs | V_Source (to Measure)
\___/
| -
V2 *---------------> 'Scope Ch2
|
|
\
R2 /
\
|
v
GND
Set your 'scope to "Add[itive]" Mode. Set Channel 2 to "Inverted."
Then you get a single trace on the scope which shows:
V_Trace = V1 - V2 = V_Source
Excellent!
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Set both 'scope channels to 0.5Volts/Division.
V_Trace appears to be AC: 0.1V
Trace (V/Div = 0.5V):
---|------------------------|---- 1.0V
| |
---|------------------------|---- 0.5V
| _ _ _ _ _ _ |
---|/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_|---- 0V
| |
---|------------------------|---- -0.5V
| |
---|------------------------|---- -1.0V
EXCELLENT!
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Adjust 'scope channels to 50mV/Division.
(Leave everything else the same)
V_Trace appears to be AC: 0.01V
Trace (V/Div = 0.05V): ---|------------------------|---- 0.10V | | ---|------------------------|---- 0.05V | _ _ _ _ _ _ | ---|/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_|---- 0V | | ---|------------------------|---- -0.05V | | ---|------------------------|---- -0.10V
WTF????????
WAS EXPECTING:
Trace (V/Div = 0.05V): (Image zoomed in Time/Div, but NOT V/Div, for ASCII Art) ---|----__----------------_|---- 0.10V | / \ / | ---|--/----\------------/--|---- 0.05V | / \ / | ---|/--------\--------/----|---- 0V | \ / | ---|-----------\----/------|---- -0.05V | \__/ | ---|-----------------------|---- -0.10V
Again... V_Source was already measured to be 0.1V in the 500mV/Div setting, but now appears to be 0.01V in the 50mV/Div setting. W T F.
That was *measured on the same 'scope* just seconds prior...
So why are we seeing V_Source=0.01V when we saw 0.1V before?!
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Think about it, verify your connections, check for broken solder-joints, swear at the universe, etc. for an hour like I did... (Remember, I simplified this experience for yah; my circuit's a bit more complex... and I didn't just switch the 'scope's knobs, I also switched to a duplicate, but not identical, circuit inbetween steps... which resulted in checking the new circuit is right *over and over*).
Finally:
Adjust those 'scope signals to make sure you saw what you saw at 0.5V/Div...
Whoa, wait... it is the same as it was last time! Yep, we are in fact seeing the same signal appear as 0.01V when viewed at 50mV/Div, and 0.1V when viewed at 0.5V/Div... Something's wrong with the 'scope? I don't use 50mV/Div very often...
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Didja figure it out yet....?
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Spoiler Alert!
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Here's a hint...
Vin = DC: 5V
The 'scope's set to 50mV/division...
The scope *shows* 10 divisions, that's 500mV total shown on the screen...
The two channels are set in Subtractive-mode...
So, we have one 'scope channel at something like 5VDC + 0.05VAC... and the other at something like 5V - 0.05VAC.
The 5V offset-voltage is feeding into the two probes...But is unseen in the trace due to being in subtractive mode.
The 50mV/Div setting means that we're amplifying that 5V offset, on each probe, and likely hitting the amplifiers' rails. Duh
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