Hello everyone! It seems I made a big mistake and bought the wrong bundle of equipment. Since I have to use a 1: 6 ratio, can I use a third party encoder?

Do I have to use a driver from Thanos?

Please help

Hi, I have the same issue as @louis.f.newman . The enconder works well but I have no force feed back and no movements in the motor.... I have revised the wiring and check it with a multimeter, the AASD driver has the correct parameters too and all appears ok, but I said before, only the encoder works well. Any help or advices would be appreciated too! 

Do not loosen the 6th line of the STM32 motherboard

Thanks| My fault... The problem was the e-stop button that wasn't connected properly

Is it in normal use now

Hi, I have wired it all up and set up the STM32 to run the MMOS firmware. I ran some tests and found that the encoder was being picked up, but there was no force feedback. I am not sure whether it is because I was using incorrect settings or because I had pin 6 of the DB25 connector open (not connected to GND). Any help/guidance would be more than greatly appreciated!

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Can I use another servomotor drive?

Can I use the AASD 20A? I found a bundle.

Hi there! My motor and driver should be here this week hopefully and i have a couple questions for you as the google translate isn't 100% :)

is PN053 = 18? correct?

Also PN198 = 120, after testing direction do you turn this speed up a bit? i see people usually talk about 220-330rpm when discussing Small and Big mige capabilities at max torque.

Thankyou for your time and i will let you know if i get it working :)

Hi Chris, ive been going over this build a few times. Lets just say the chinese to english conversion leaves room to interpration but i think i got it figured out. Ive been slowly making a list of parts i plan to order to get going on building this, as well as downloading all the necessary files. The german website he links to seems like it requires registration, but i found the 2 important MMos zip files just by searching the net for the file names. Someone uploaded them to a google drive on a xsimulator.net post. If you cant find them, i can upload them for you.

For the build im planning on ordering a 130ST-M15015 motor with AASD-30A controller. This motor will put out a max of 15nm.. should give me a good workout lol

Also Google AASD-30A manual, and you should be able to find an english/ish translated manual. its not the best, but it gets the parameter settings more context.

Please keep myself and others updated on your success. Ive been doing a fair bit of research on these "STM32F407G-DISC1" powered sim board, and most of the info online relates to folks just using the servo motor with a universal standalone servo drive (simucube)/Ioni setups.. but i think tying the motor with a proper servo drive designed for its peak power outputs would be most beneficial..

Im a automation engineer and spend alot of my time working with Mitsubishi Mr-J2,Mr-J3 drives and setups. I really wanted to use one of them as i know the settings and setup software, but a 1.5+KW setup will cost me more then 4x this AASD-30A setup.. Plus it would be a waste to use such a good servo for this application, most "automation high end" drive/motor combos have significantly higher performance parameters then these AASD setups.. The mitsubishi's for example are rated for max RPM/s of 4000-6000... which is never needed in these operating parameters for a sim motor. lol

When i dig in, im tempted to do a detailed video overview so folks will have a better ideal of how this all comes together and "works"

Also regarding the "PN053 = 18?" yes he must of made a typo.. it should be 18 and not 58.. In the manual, "PN053" has multiple parameter options, option 18 is described as "CINV - Instrucitons in reverse... "The speed or torque control mode, take the speed or torque of the instruction"

Basically its reading the DIR output from the STM32 and telling it to invert the torque..  Kinda crude description, but thats how im interpreting it.

Cheers for the reply mate! i have ordered the 130st-10015 (Not genuine Mige) with AASD-30A too ;) Cheaper and more RPM and torque! It's a no brainer. I have also been going through the manual, hence why i asked as 58 was out of range for that parameter. I'm just structuring all the info in a different document so its easier for me to understand and for when i put it up on Xsimulator etc.

I am also going to be doing a tutorial video of the whole process as this is an excellent entry price for a Mige FFB setup. I just got a 2500PPR (10000CPR) encoder for now and will try source a second hand 10000PPR encoder off someone in the forums as most of them have gone Biss-c or SinCos so they would just have them laying around doing nothing.. Worst case i can order from Mige for $89us delivered. But i want to get it up and running first and see how it feels. Over the span of the next year i will save up for a Simucube setup to run the better encoders and use their software as its meant to be a step above MMOS these days in terms of compatibility and tweaking options. Either way it will be a fun project and it will kick my G920's butt for the time being haha. 

If i have some troubles, I might be able to ask Thanos for some help as hes had a lot to do the the AASD drives since making his new 6dof controller for them and he seems interested but doesn't have the time to try it out. See how i get on but.

I will definitely keep yous posted on how it goes and post videos when its done. Hoping all my bits are here by the end of the week, maybe early next week for the motor.

Hi Chris. Did you receive your motor and driver yet?

What did you pay and who are the suppliers? Some of the links posted here don't take you anywhere relevant.

Thanks,

Karl

Hi mate, Motor was held up in Singapore for 10 days by DHL due to Covid19 madness i guess. It left this morning finally! So hopefully a couple days more to wait. Ordered from here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32868662195.html ($360US delivered to Australia) I have bought 6 motors from them before, good seller and products, might be cheaper from different seller depending where you're located...

As for the STM32 i used RS Components: https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/9107951/ its also couple days away as they said they had stock but ordered it in from overseas.. arrgh i hate waiting! lol. 

I'll be getting an upgraded encoder from Mige: https://hzmgdj.en.alibaba.com/company_profile.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.0.0.1c0be93132Nive#top-nav-bar ($89US delivered) If all goes to plan, that is..

Cheers, Chris

Thanks for your reply, Chris. From my research, the parts you've mentioned are the main parts, but you still need a power supply, case, adaptors, etc., right?

I'm referring to something like this as a reference: 

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vTQy16ufGB-Z_NdL0iEF7sJSbKFNdaM32F0TgrpiNuMok7VcSE8OHXncI_AoJOjg_rjSA6EBWzJ9FXk/pub

The AASD Driver takes mains power 220v (can be used with 110v search thanos AASD on youtube and look through his channel) So you wire up a plug from mains power, connect it to the driver. the motor plugs into the driver. The driver comes with a db25 connector, you wire up those pins from the stm32 board to the correct pins on the db25 connector and plug it into the AASD driver. then usb to the computer from the stm32 and you're done! Run MMOS and set it up. 

You are referring to a Simucube setup which uses DC power so needs external power supplies and expensive ioni drivers etc. As for a case i have 6 AASD already mounted into a server cabinet so adding one more is easy for me.. you could mount it to anything really.. the wall.. piece of wood.. or make your own enclosure..

Thanks Chris. So what you're talking about is less than US$500 for a setup that works similarly to a Simucube setup? That sounds amazing. Looking forward to your review.

Hi Chris. Did you receive your motor yet? Are you up and running?

Sure am! :) Here's the Build https://www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/450-mige-direct-drive-wheel-using-mmos-and-aasd.14657/

Could be used another shifters and pedals? Any code is benn used or "simple" connect and used it as the diagram?

Your description would be much more readable if you formatted it better, for example used tables and lists.