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HACKtablet: Crestron TSS-752 Teardown + Rebuild

Tearing down a Crestron display conference room controller, the second. And making it into a CircuitPython device.

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Look for CircuitPython files here: https://circuitpython.org/board/espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8_hacktablet/


Everything has screens these days. How can we reuse these screens to make something new or remake something old again? Here’s one example with some tools for ya.

I procured a Crestron display unit and decided to see the similarities to previous one that I tore down. This time it’s a TSS-752. This has several capacitive touch pads built onto the front screen and an overall smaller size of the housing. The touchscreen display panel comes out more cleanly from the housing, leaving a much smaller display/backlight/touchscreen unit. At first glance at the 40-pin FPC connector, I suspect the pinouts match the other unit that I tore down, but will require a look at the specs. The display panel is labeled “ETML0700H6 DH6”. The touch panel uses the same FT5406 chip, and the panel is labeled as “EP0700MLR2” with a 6-pin FPC connector.

Latest progress on repurposing this display as driven by an ESP32-S3.

This Crestron TSS-752 appears to be a superior candidate for reuse versus the previous teardown of the Crestron TSW-732

After pulling out the front panels, the TSS-752 is much smaller, since it is not attached to such a large plastic housing. For the white unit, the display is held in the housing with strong adhesive, removing the white unit’s display/touchpanel caused me to damage the panel. In contrast, the black unit’s display comes out after removing two screws, spudgering the other edge out, and springing back four plastic clips. 

The black unit’s design makes the display more readily accessible and ends up with a smaller footprint. The bezel on both is quite large, though.  And the black unit has the additional bezel associated with the touch buttons. Perhaps these buttons are also monitored by the touchscreen, if so that could be useful for something.

The TSS-752 uses a 40-pin FPC and a quick glance at the connector suggests the pinouts may match the other units display. This is confirmed, the 40 pin FPC and 6- pi. Touch panel pinouts match the TSW-732  I’ve repeated them here for completeness.

The touch panel driver chip is the same FT5406 and uses a 6-pin FPC.  Pinouts are 1: Gnd, 2: 3.3V, 3: SDA, 4: SCL, 5: interrupt and 6: maybe wake but I have not verified. The display is recognized as I2C address 0x38, and a CircuitPython demo using the FocalTouch library.  The extra area in the bezel is also touch reactive to access the arrow and X buttons that are labeled on the one edge.

I think this black unit is a winner, the four inset nuts on the back panel are waiting and ready for bolting on a 3d printed or laser cut protective case. 

Interestingly both of these units are 303 grams. The black one (model TSS-752) definitely feels dense in the hand. I suspect the diffuser is a heavy hitter in the weight category but I’ll need to separate and weigh the parts to find out. With a battery and a circuit board, this one will be fairly beefy. But nothing really I can do about it, such is life. This process gives me a small appreciation for tablet and phone makers who shave bits everywhere to make such portable devices. 

The left and right sides of the unit have red/green occupancy LEDs. This is an interesting way of diffusing the light. I wonder what this coating is on the PCB. Perhaps it is just a reflector.  And what is this big chip on here seems way overkill for just an LED driver? Looks like a TI Y59116, and I2C constant current LED driver. Maybe these could be repurposed for something cool. 

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  • HACKtablet giveaway

    kmatch9807/26/2022 at 21:49 0 comments

    Thanks to foamyguy for organizing a giveaway of 5 HACKtablets.

    Link to Details here

    Link to Entry form


    Special thanks to Adafruit for supporting shipping costs. 

  • Cost of prototyping

    kmatch9807/26/2022 at 13:27 0 comments

    One question you might have is how much will it cost to make a prototype like this. 

    Here is a rough set of expenses.  Note that some things, like buying PCBs practically requires that you buy several, so it’s cheaper on a unit basis to buy and build several. 

    Crestron TSS-752  panels (used) - I bought a total of 10 of these. Unit cost was between 17.50 (for a pack of 5 on eBay) and 20, delivered. Rough total of $200, let’s call it $20 per panel  

    PCB, components and assembly service - 124.76 for 10 assembled boards, so $12.74 per finished board, delivered.


    Esp32-S3 DevKit N8R8 - purchased from Adafruit with 20% off discount code but plus shipping, let’s say $20 per board delivered.  I see these a bit cheaper for $15 at Mouser.


    estimated unit HACKtablet cost: 20+13+20=$53 per HACKtablet 


    other development costs:

    I bought a couple other Crestron tablets of a different model: $80

    USB cables: $20

    Some adapter boards I used to connect the 40-pin FPC connector to a breadboard, and a display backlight driver helper board: $30


    Overall this project has cost me around $600-700 and has enough materials to make 10 HACKtablet units. As for the number of hours, I’d venture a guess of somewhere around 200+ hours.  If you calculate hobby costs, that’s $3/hr of entertainment.  

  • Updated Case with Port Cutouts

    kmatch9807/21/2022 at 13:33 0 comments

    The first case that I created obstructed access to the two Stemma QT ports.  I’ve modified the case to accommodate access to these ports.  Now the case requires some support, but seems to work.  Note: My slicer also added support into the small clip "notch" holes, but it was easily broken out with a screwdriver.  

    The updated CAD files (Fusion3D, STEP and STL) are now located in the files section and are labeled "Stemma port cutout".

  • Video footage

    kmatch9807/21/2022 at 04:24 0 comments

    Here’s some action footage of multitouch on the HACKtablet:

    #t=17m18s




  • A video of building custom CircuitPython for the tablet

    kmatch9807/17/2022 at 16:12 0 comments

    foamyguy streamed two videos where he was able to successfully able to build and flash CircuitPython on the tablet prototype  

    There were a few misdirections in the streams but he got it to build. 

    Still several things to overcome to get it merged into Main CircuitPython but this is a good time next step:

  • Building CircuitPython for the HACKtablet

    kmatch9807/16/2022 at 20:24 0 comments

    here are the rough steps for building CircuitPython for the ESP32-S3 N8R8 devkit board:

    git clone git@github.com:kmatch98/circuitpython.git

    cd circuitpyton

    git checkout esp32s3_dotclockdisplay

    make fetch-submodules

    # Also I had to do this, I’m not sure which step.

    git submodule update --init --recursive

    cd ports/espressif

    # Note: When I get here, the esp-idf directory is created, but empty.

    git clone git@github.com:kmatch98/esp-idf.git

    git checkout rgb_add

    cd ports/espressif/esp-idf

    . ./export.sh

    cd ..   # move up to ports/espressif folder

    make BOARD=espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8

    I got this error:

    ninja: Entering directory `build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/esp-idf'

    ninja: error: '../../esp-idf/components/esp_lcd/linker.lf', needed by 'esp-idf/esp_system/ld/sections.ld', missing and no known rule to make it

    # So I had to copy over this linker.lf file from the repo to circuitpython/ports/espressif/esp-idf/components/esp_lcd:

    [mapping:esp_lcd]

    archive: libesp_lcd.a

    entries:

        if LCD_RGB_ISR_IRAM_SAFE = y:

            esp_lcd_common: lcd_com_mount_dma_data (noflash)

            esp_lcd_rgb_panel: lcd_rgb_panel_start_transmission (noflash)

    # Then I reran: 

    make BOARD=espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8

    pip install esptool

    # Then I had to hold BOOT, tap RESET, release BOOT:

    python3 -m esptool --chip esp32s3 write_flash 0x0 build-espressif_esp32s3_devkitc_1_n8r8/firmware.bin

  • Procedure for disassembly and reassembly

    kmatch9807/14/2022 at 17:34 0 comments

    Here are the steps for detaching the screen from the TSS-752, and then installing the ESP32-S3 demo board.

    Procure a Crestron TSS-752 and a custom circuit board. You'll need a Philips screwdriver and a spudger (I use a stiff guitar pick).

    Remove two M2.5 screws with a Philips screwdriver.

    On the edge with the Crestron logo, insert the guitar pick and slide it back and forth to release the clips between the housing and the display bottom edge.  

    Now, do the same with the upper edge.  The order of the edges is important.

    Pry off the back cover and remove the two speaker connectors (red and black twisted wires) to disconnect the main panel from the back housing.

    Remove two more Philips screws.

    Peel off the brown (Kapton) tape from the connector cables and disconnect the flex cables.  The two connectors on the left and right go to the LED and LED driver boards with I2C control.  Maybe you can reuse those for another cool project.  I'm not sure what the other cable goes to, but remove it anyway.

    Now, remove the 4Gb memory card.  It's in a weird format, but you can reformat it and use it for something else.

    Here's the parts I removed:

    There are four plastic clips that hold the PCB to the back of the display. I used needle nose pliers to spring them aside and release the PCB.  Flex them one at a time and you can get them loose.

    Remove some of the brown Kapton tape holding the backlight connection down.

    Now you can carefully hinge the PCB down (or display up) to access the three connectors (40 pin FPC for display, 8 pin FPC for touch-screen, and two-pin 1.25 mm pitch connector for backlight).  

    Carefully remove any Kapton tape holding the Flex connectors down.  Try not to stress the flex cables.

    Now slide the FPC connector latches and remove the flex connectors.

    Here's the parts laid out:

    Now prepare your PCB.  The original design had too much backlight current.  I removed R10 and soldered a 20 Ohm resistor at position R2.

    I soldered headers onto the board so that the ESP32-S3 devkit is removable if required. I didn't have 22 pin connectors, so I had to make an extra 2-pin header by cutting a longer header and sanding it to fit.  Note the orientation of the USB connectors when install the devkit board. To prevent scratching anything, I put some tape on the headers.

    I created a thin 3D-printed bracket to make the unit easier to handle. The devkit protrudes out the back, so I put some tape on it to prevent scratching anything.  

    Now there's two working units:

  • Schematic and Pinouts

    kmatch9807/14/2022 at 17:07 0 comments

    Here is a summary of the pinouts between the ESP32-S3 devkit board and the I2C bus (including two Stemma QT connectors) and also the 40-pin LCD display taken from the TSS-752.

    The I2C signal connections are GPIO41 (SCL) and GPIO42 (SDA). The touchscreen IRQ is connected to pin GPIO40.

    The backlight enable is connected to GPIO39.

    Here is the schematic for the Prototype PCB that I created for the connections between the TSS-752 extracted touch-screen display and the ESP32-S3 devkit board.

    This is my first schematic so it's probably not very readable.  I've got a lot to learn.

    During initial testing, I found that the backlight current was set too high (and I burnt out U1), so I made a modification to the board backlight driver current setting.  I removed R10 to open circuit the 3 Ohm resistance, and placed a 20 Ohm resistor in position R2.  (Next time I need to provide more copper area to U1 of heat sinking.)

    Also, I had to extend the wires to the backlight so that the connector would reach.

    Here's an image of the board with R10 removed, and the 20 Ohm resistor placed in position R2.  Also note the orientation of the devkit board, with the USB ports noted.

  • Software commit

    kmatch9806/25/2022 at 21:40 0 comments

    I made a commit of my branch of CircuitPython here with the ESP32-S3 LCD peripheral updates:


    https://github.com/kmatch98/esp-idf/tree/release/v4.4_rgblcd


    this also depends upon some updates to the ESP-IDF for driving the LCD peripheral:

    https://github.com/kmatch98/circuitpython/tree/esp32s3_dotclockdisplay


    These ESP-IDF changes are required to allow CircuitPython to allocate the FrameBuffer, to prevent the LCD peripheral from getting starved for data during DMA transfers, and allows CircuitPython to trigger the screen refreshes, thus preventing “tearing”. 

  • Minor updates

    kmatch9806/10/2022 at 20:55 0 comments

    Had to take some time away, due to other personal business but thought I should update the to do list.

    Now with the ESP32-S3 "bounce buffer" code from Espressif and adding the ability to trigger a refresh the display work without glitches and without tearing.  Main next steps are to merge a first version and clean up the include statements so that it will build CircuitPython in a normal environment.

    Other things are required to make this work.  I had to make update to the ESP-IDF to allow:

    1. CircuitPython to allocate the framebuffer.  CircuitPython allocates all the PSRAM into its heap and then the CircuitPython core code allocates it from the heap.  The ESP-IDF assumes that the framebuffer will be allocated from the PSRAM using the ESP-IDF allocation functions.  I had to create a function that allowed CircuitPython to preallocate the framebuffer and pass the relevant address into the display init function.

    2. I added a function so the the CircuitPython display can trigger the refresh.  The ESP-IDF just refreshes continuously.  I had to add this new function so that the display would not refresh while the memory was being changed, which caused tearing.

    3.  I need to create an issue on the ESP-IDF to request the abilities above.

    4. I'd like a way to evaluate the CircuitPython frame rate.  So far I haven't found any obvious way of measuring it.

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Paul Brickley wrote 09/08/2024 at 06:22 point

I'm thinking about doing a raspberry pi version and with controls on the sides for a nice little game console.

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Rich wrote 06/05/2024 at 23:17 point

Great work! I've been looking for some good teardown/hackaday examples for reusing some of these outdated "enterprise" peripherals! It's a shame that  a small change in design ends up rendering perfectly good materials "useless".... would love to discuss other projects with you! Thanks again!

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Rich wrote 06/05/2024 at 23:17 point

Great work! I've been looking for some good teardown/hackaday examples for reusing some of these outdated "enterprise" peripherals! It's a shame that  a small change in design ends up rendering perfectly good materials "useless".... would love to discuss other projects with you! Thanks again!

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Miah wrote 11/29/2023 at 15:36 point

Who did you use for the assembled HACKtablet PCB prototype? I want to order a couple and im just getting my feet wet with this kind of thing 

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Miah wrote 11/29/2023 at 15:04 point

Love this project! . i have a grip of TSS-1060 that are now useless after a zoom room EOL on android 5.   

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Per Jensen wrote 11/04/2023 at 08:23 point

The white coating on the occupation LED PCB is just the white silkscreen ink. Nothing special.

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