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Created a second board, now with the corrected USB connector pinout:
And I built it:
The problems started here.
The first thing, I wanted to test it. To test it it is not enough to connect it to some random USB source. I wanted a variable source.
I've a lab supply, but it has no USB out. As I didn't wanted to cut any USB cables, I designed and built this small "tool":
After this the testing went to a complete disaster.
1. It was working from ~2V to 4.3V correctly, but when I went above 4.3V the output voltage just went above 5V. I was thinking this can be the result of miss of the minimal load, what usually required. So I setup the circuit with some (~50mA) load:
Testing..
At 2.0V:
Looks good
At 4.3V:
Still looks good
At 4.4V:
Not so good anymore. :-(
In addition, if I change the voltage, sometimes the whole circuit gets unstable. So the result clearly useless.
I've possible explanations to the things above:
- I've a crap layout - I'll try to enhance it in the next version
- I've some sort circuit(-is) things in my build. I can admit that using solid groundplane around the surface mount inductors without insulating solder mask wasn't my best idea
- The boost regulator is unable to handle the >4.3V in 5V out situation even if the datasheet just said Vout>Vin as a requirement
Here are the possible solution for the next try:
- Create a new board, with different layout and definitely with a cutout in the groundplane around the inductors
- Use the pass trough capability of the chip (this will require some kind of external comparator)
- Use a different (buck-boost or SEPIC) circuit - I may try the LM2621 what I ordered already for one of my other projects
- Keep the current boost converter (rising the output voltage to - let say - 6 volts) and use it as a pre-regulator for an LDO. As It suggested by The Big One.
Finally I decided to create a new board for the project. The design is here:
I plan to create the board over the weekend
My mistake, component manufacturers insanity (my opinion).
I was not even dream of, that somebody put a PCB layout of a surface mount component from bottom view. When I created the Kicad module from the datasheet, I didn't checked this "BOTTOM VIEW" note on it. So the component was connected in the wrong direction.
So the regulator works, just the whole board useless.
PCB rediesign, rebuild will come.
I just built the first version today. Unfortunately some of the components not really fitted in, so some tweaking/parts changing was necessary. With some load it not really looks working. I should check, what is the problem with it.
As I was looking for a power solution for my Boostuino project the Microchip's MCP1642 boost regulator. Finally it was not suitable for that project, but I realized this could be a good candidate for the USB Booster:
it has much higher efficiency than the good old MC34063
available locally for reasonable price
low size/value external components needed due to the high switching frequency
So based on these factors I designed a circuit for it.
The circuit is available in its newly created gihub repo: https://github.com/sufzoli/suf-electronics-USB-booster
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Hi,
I prefer either, but...
Here is requirement something what is able to step up the voltage, since we have no external power source and the incoming power is somewhere between 3 and 5 Volts. And the 5V is derived from it. The only reasonable topology is boost or charge pump. Unfortunately linear regulator is out of question.
About the noise. I don't know yet until I not built the circuit. But you have consider two factors:
1. The additional low pass LC filter what decrease the noise
2. The digital circuitry what will be powered from this can easily sustain the noise generated by the SMPS.
Anyway. When the circuit finished I want to check and publish the measured noise.
Cheers,
SUF
Yeah for sure; sorry I wasn't more clear on my question, but I was talking about a boost + LDO. So boost to (say) 6.5V, and then use LDO to get it down to a clean 5.
I use a similar system to get a clean voltage out of 4xAA battery back driving a bunch of servos... there are a bunch of voltage drops when the servos move, so I need to boost a low voltage higher and then drop it down with an LDO. Not as efficient, but it may be a reasonable tradeoff. Just a thought. :-)
Cheers
Ok, I see now.
I think, we will see the result. As I may mentioned above this is just the first iteration. The screen of the scope will decide. :-)
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Interesting project. How much noise does the MCP1642 output have? I tend to prefer linear regulators when precise / clean voltage sources are required, but I have not used that one before.
Cheers