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Hacking a Cossor (Raytheon) Husky Printer

Printers from military surplus with absolutely no documentation and an obscure interface connector... sounds like a good hacking project.

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Cossor raytheon Husky printer clansman kipling

This project was created on 11/15/2019 and last updated 5 years ago.

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There's been a load of these printers from military surplus on E. Bay recently. But they've come from a (classified?) military communication system and have pretty much no documentation at all. This is my attempt at getting it printing something. Hopefully with enough info for you to be able to use them with much less effort.

This is the only information I've found on the internet:
(I'm not sure where I've found these keywords... but they might help with Googling)

Cossor (Raytheon) Husky Printer
807852/000 NSN 5810-99-736-0157 5810997360157
Part number:7360157
Applicable Models: CLANSMAN EQUIPMENT

Cossor (Raytheon) Husky Printer
807852/000 5810-99-736-0157 5810997360157 CLASSIFIED
Part number:7360157
Applicable Models: CLANSMAN EQUIPMENT KIPLING CLASSIFIED!!

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  • MAX232CPE Pinout

    Andy Preston • 09/19/2020 at 10:29 • 0 comments

  • Identified The Main Chip - still no datasheet though

    Andy Preston • 09/19/2020 at 09:10 • 0 comments

    Trying to find details of "the main chip".... ironically one of my top Google hits was this very project on HackADay. :/

    I've found a Chinese reseller that's selling "the main chip" https://www.jotrin.com/product/parts/LA_180D so, at least, we now know it's designation.

    There was a promise of a datasheet at the above address but after they got me to create an account (probably just a way to obtain my E. mail address for spamming), The promised datasheet link just takes you to Panasonic's website.

    But at least now we know that it's a Sanyo LA-180D. Although http://www.showadenshisangyo.co.jp/import_csv/stocks/10001-450.html seems to think it was manufactured by Oki.

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    Andy Preston • 11/16/2019 at 10:53 • 0 comments

    There's a lot of traces under the chips too.

    I'm thinking that if I don't succeed in getting it working. I might strip the board right down, so that you can have an image of the front of the board without having to trash one for yourself.

    Here's the back of the board too.

  • Getting a photo of the interface connector before I yank it out.

    Andy Preston • 11/15/2019 at 17:00 • 0 comments

  • Is there anything inside we could interface to?

    Andy Preston • 11/15/2019 at 16:48 • 0 comments

    The "big chip"... Possibly a custom chip just for this device. I've not found any details as yet.

    The "smaller chips"... Plenty more details on these:

    INTERSIL ICL7642ECPD - S8936 - Dual/Quad, Low Power CMOS Operational Amplifiers
    MAXIM MAX232CPE - RS-232 --> TTL converter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAX232
    74HC14N - Hex Schmitt-Trigger Inverters
    74HC02N - Quad 2-input Positive-NOR gates

    LA-180D 46 062028 ( https://hackaday.io/project/168472-hacking-a-cossor-raytheon-husky-printer/log/183787-identified-the-main-chip-still-no-datasheet-though )

    That Maxim chip looks like a good place to tap in a serial port at either RS232 or TTL voltage.

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x3n0x wrote 06/24/2020 at 14:00 • point

Looks like the interface connector is made by Glenair.  Those connectors are similar in cost and reliability to the infamous Amphenol ones used in most other military equipment.  They are not unobtanium, but they are not cheap either.  I agree with you about the large IC;  Probably some kind of 8051 part, custom ROM masked for this application and house numbered.  If you really want to print something with it, you may find it easier to reverse engineer and duplicate the drive circuitry for the print head and associated mechanism, and using a microcontroller of your choice to handle the interfacing.  There may be some kind of key exchange, or unlock that has to happen to enable the device. I could also be totally wrong, and you may find it just responds to serial data on the four-pin header using  some kind of simple serial protocol like some older receipt printers.  There does not seem to be any sort of voltage regulation, so I bet you supply it with 5V directly, via the four pin interface connector.  I notice a cable coming off to the side of the Large IC, what did this hook to?

  Are you sure? yes | no

Andy Preston wrote 07/03/2020 at 18:09 • point

I can't give any exact details because it's in my office and I'm still in COVID lockdown.

I've already chopped the connector (I was thinking "not unobtainium but not cheap either myself)  off with an aim of fitting a D-plug instead (hopefully) based on the pin outs of the  MAX232CPE... I hadn't thought that there might be some kind of unlock key exchange... that will be annoying if there is.

It's power supply came from (maybe) 6 or 8 AA cells.

I'm pretty sure (would be so much easier if I had the unit here and wasn't just looking at the photos and guessing like everyone else) that the bundle of wires next to the big chip is for the power... that doesn't seem right... you'd expect just a red and black... but I am fairly sure that's what it is.

I'll be able to give you a straight answer (or at least a "strighter" one) when I get into my office.

  Are you sure? yes | no

Jrsphoto wrote 06/19/2020 at 21:52 • point

Any chance you could remove the stickers from the LA-180D.  Curious if there is anything markings underneath them.  Also, see if you can tell me which pins are power and ground? 

Curious design.  With all the TO92 transistors on the pcb, and without knowing the layout, I'd guess that the LA-180D is some type of processor and the transistors are for driving the printer.

  Are you sure? yes | no

Andy Preston wrote 06/24/2020 at 12:58 • point

I can't get into my lab at the moment because of Covid-19 so I can't answer any of your questions right now.

I don't think it's that likely there will be any markings under the barcode just because it's more usual to put them in the middle of a DIP package... and there they are: "LA-I80D 46 062028" but I can still rip it off and have a look for you.

I hadn't bothered checking any of the pins of that big chip, which I too am assuming is some kind of processor or microcontroller. As I had found that that the Maxim chip is a RS232 driver, I was planning on working from there with a known chip with a datasheet.

The M-180 printer module has a separate line fro each of 7 solenoids and a motor so it should need a few driver transistors... but still 21 does seem to be quite a lot.... but military stuff is kinda well known for being hideously over-enginiered (??????)

One thing I can do without being anywhere near the unit itself....... I've just added a link to what is almost certainly the datasheet for the print module itself.

  Are you sure? yes | no

Andy Preston wrote 08/05/2020 at 13:20 • point

I'm just uploading a picture now... sadly there was nothing under the sticker.

See: https://hackaday.io/project/168472/gallery#64f1611a6b6d3fba3fc8634322f843fe

I'm still nowhere on finding power and ground... There's no obvious high-current or ground-plane connections going to it at all... I'll have to power it up and probe it for that. And that could take some time for reassembly. Sorry this is taking so long but I'm still only going into my office a couple of days a week at the moment.

  Are you sure? yes | no

Ken Yap wrote 11/15/2019 at 23:12 • point

What does it print? Surely not dogs?

I mean what kind of material does the printing mechanism suggest? I see some gear wheels, what are the mechanics? What kind of ink or marking substance is used? Maybe if you looked into those aspects rather than the electronics first you might have an idea how it works.

The other thing is it being army surplus perhaps you should be asking in forums where people who have used it could tell you what it does.

  Are you sure? yes | no

Andy Preston wrote 06/19/2020 at 21:11 • point

It uses an Epson M180 print module, I think. The module certainly looks identical to the Epson m180 series. This is a traditional dot-matrix mechanism with a miniature ribbon.

I've been around some forums but as it was part of a secret communication system, even though it's mechanism is very straightforward, the equipment it was connected to was covered by "The Official Secrets Act" and can't really be talked about for 100 years.

  Are you sure? yes | no

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