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actual soldering
01/09/2022 at 00:06 • 0 commentsthis morning i did a last test-run with the tweaked Felder ISO-Cream profile:
yeah... at the top i thought it is in the cooling step already and opened the window - with ~3°C cold air from outside it dropped fast.. then i found it is in the middle of the reflow - sorry... and closed the window again - until it really switched to cooling..
the old left-over pcb i use for these is done now.. i comes from my LEDBoard_4x4_16bit project - and if i remember correctly i backed it while assembling the boards in the oven multiple times back then.. now grilled it again ~4-7 times. it smells very bad - is super dark discolored.. i think that is ok with about ~12 solder cycles..
and then started to assemble a simple board to really test the profile :-)
then reflowed:
i added a paper-lid to have stable air inside..
reflow was successful :-) my profile is just a little bit to long for my right angle touch switches:
they melted away :-( - lesson learned - have a look in the datasheet and you know that they are very heat sensitive!
in general i have the feeling that my heating elements get a little bit to hot - the pcb also slightly discolored at on place...
so will keep an eye on this and improve it..Open Points
- add housing
- i would like to have class at the top for a good view what is happening inside..
- metal frame for heating-elements
- quite 5V fan with PWM control for cooling
- add second temperature sensor
- spring thing to hold board down
- way to fix sensor position on board
- more heating elements for bigger working area
- switchable configuration for long or more square pcbs?!
- bigger power supply ?! (~750W)
- add housing
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Testing and Tuning the PID
01/08/2022 at 11:32 • 0 commentsfor tuning i followed more or less the tutorial PID Without a PhD from Tim Wescott and the tutorial and video from PID Explained Team.
first i just checked with low temperatures of 20..40°C as i went on and tested up to 260°C i noticed that the current did decrease. and the temperature did not increase any more. i could see this in my graph as the heating got slower and slower with the rising temperature… (also the pid already saturated at the output..)
so i measured the resistance during the cool down of the heating elements to get some insights: (4x in series → 48V/4=~12V/Module)
Resistance (Ohm) Power @48V (W) 40 57 39 58 38 59 36 60,5 38 60,3 34 64,8 26 88,6 24 96 22 104 20,9 110 19,5 118 Temperature / Resistance – 4 Modules in Series – 12V/Module result: the ~57W is not enough to get to more than 255°C…
i rearranged the Modules into 3-in-series connection. this means ~16V/Module – and tested again:
Resistance (Ohm) Power @48V (W) 27,5 70 27,0 72 26,6 77 25,6 80 25,3 82 24,1 86 18,8 100 17,5 130 16,7 15,6 14,3 Temperature / Resistance 3 Modules in Series – 16V/Module with this i found that i can go above 255°C.
i then tested the profile for the Felder ISO-Cream “Clear” and found that in the reflow stage the heat-up is a little to slow:
so i again switch the configuration – now i have a 2-in-series config: 24V/Module CURRENTLY THIS TABLE IS ONLY CALCULATED VALUES!!
Resistance (Ohm) Power @48V (W) 20 115 19,5 118 19 121 18 128 17,5 132 17 135 13 177 12 192 11 209 10,45 220 9,75 236 CURRENTLY ONLY CALCULATED VALUES!!!! Temperature / Resistance – 2 Modules in Series – 24V/Module i also tested this with the Felder profile:
this time the heat-up is fast enough! 🙂 the nice and working pid tuning i had for the 4-in-series arrangement is now out of tune… so i will have to re-tune it to get less overshoot / swing.
while having a break i thought about the maximal power in this configuration – and found that this way i only be able to power 2×2 modules with my 250W power supply. for now i leave it this way. in the long run i hope with the other frame concept i get more heat to the pcb and less into the stone and this way be able to use the 3S config.
Tuning
after a day of mostly waiting til the system cooled down again – one test cycle <=60°C needs 400s → 6:40min – i just rebuild my hw mounting setup.
this way i can warm up quicker and cool down much quicker as i do not store heat in the stone. – at least that is what i hope..
plot with old setup plot with new setup hmmm – does not seem to change much..
i then tested the actual Felder Profile:
Felder ISO-Cream ‘Clear’ – Sn96,5Ag3,0Cu0,5 – 2S1P – P 04.50 I 00.00 D 00.00 seems i have a working profile. i will add a little more time for the prepare phase. so the pcb is really fully at the 50°C. at the top i have a little bit of a mis-match – i saw on my temp sensor directly connected to the heating elements at the top ~265°C – so that is hot… the pcb seems to increase its temperature resistance at higher temperatures… at the peak i have 230°C to 245°C error. and to the heating this results in ~35°C difference…
i will report when i solder the first real board. 😉
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progress
01/08/2022 at 11:01 • 1 commentthere was a response to my request in the forum: with the links to
i have created a [new repository for my
cp_reflow_controller
– with this example on hand i will use a adafruit PyBadge as main controller – and use theEZ-Make-Oven
as guide how to design the software… (all the parts i have on hand are a little bit different….)As temperature sensor i use the Adafruit MAX31855 Thermocouple breakout board
parts have arrived and i have build the hw..
and over the holidays i also have written the firmware...
and just *along the way* written a CircuitPython library for nonblocking user input...
with this setup i can experiment with the PID...
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the first steps...
01/08/2022 at 10:54 • 0 commentsthe idea came from this Applied Science Video: Electroluminescent paint and multi-channel control circuit 21 Nov 2018 starting at 11:25
there is a link to amazon for a element – and it is not available to delivery to germany 🙁 so i went on with some help of friends and found
voltage current power@ 6V power@ 12V link 12V 5,8A 17W 70W HALJIA 12V 70W Wired MCH Metal Ceramic Heating Plate Heating Element 70mm x 15mm 24V 4,6A 7W 27W Haljia 24V 110W Wired MCH Metal Ceramic Heating Plate Heating Element 70mm x 15mm 12V 4A 12W 24W Haljia 12 V48 W Wire MCH Metal Ceramic Heating Plate Heating Element 40 mm x 40 mm 24V 4 24W 48W Haljia 24 V96 W WIRED MCH Metal Ceramic Heating Plate Heating Element 40 mm x 40 mm to get an idea of how much power i actually need i had a look at the small commercial IR-Heaters and Hot-Plates – they all have about 800W:
180mm * 235mm = 42300 mm² = 423 cm² a = 60mm * 60mm = 3600 mm² = 48 cm (1x4) b = 60mm * 80mm = 4800 mm² = 48 cm (2x2) c = 60mm * 90mm = 5400 mm² = 54 cm² (1x6) d = 60mm * 120mm = 7200 mm² = 72 cm² (1x8) e = 120mm * 60mm = 7200 mm² = 72 cm² (2x4) f = 120mm * 90mm = 10800 mm² = 108 cm² (2x6) g = 120mm * 120mm = 14400 mm² = 144 cm² (2x8) 423 cm² == 800W 1 cm² == x x = 800W * 1cm² / 423cm² = 1,89W a = 800W * 36cm² / 423cm² = ~68W (1x4) b = 800W * 48cm² / 423cm² = ~91W (2x2) c = 800W * 54cm² / 423cm² = ~102W (1x6) d = 800W * 72cm² / 423cm² = ~136W (1x8) e = 800W * 72cm² / 423cm² = ~136W (2x4) f = 800W * 108cm² / 423cm² = ~204W (2x6) g = 800W * 144cm² / 423cm² = ~272W (2x8) 30x40mm: ~23W/module 60x15mm: ~17W/module
then i calculated the resistance of the found element to check on what wattage i can do at what voltages:
U = R*I P = U*I → P = U*(U/R)
(i added these *guesses* in the table above)
So I decided to go with the 70x15mm 24V model. and will update here if i found how this works out..
and for the first test setup i will go with the concept 12V→ 27W / module so definitive more then enough..
as power supply i will use a MeanWell GST280A48-C6P (reichelt) with an fitting connector (reichelt) to get a 5V for the controller i will go with a recom R-78HB50-05 (VIN: 9-72V) and for switching the power to the heating elements i will use IRLB4030PBF – MOSFET N-LogL 100V 180A 370W 0,0043R TO220AB and to drive this a BC 550C as mentioned in this nice article: Schalten und Steuern mit Transistoren III – Mit MOSFETs höhere Ströme schalten
so when all the parts arrive i can go on.. with building.
for the Controller i plan to write it in CircuitPython and run it on an adafruit ItsyBitsyM4. and maybe later add an LCD – or use a PyBadge – for now i just want to use the arduino serial plotter or similar with an second CDC-device enabled to log the progress and the flash-drive function of CircuitPython for a text-file with the temperature-profile. i have written a request in the adafruit CircuitPython forum if there are any PID controller things out there…